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1 posted on 12/18/2022 2:23:33 PM PST by MtnClimber
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Not just the military, but agencies such as the FBI, DHS, IRS, CDC and others. The violations of individual rights are currently staggering.


2 posted on 12/18/2022 2:23:57 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Too late for the military, as also for the DOJ, FBI, CIA, NSA, academia, education, etc etc.


4 posted on 12/18/2022 2:42:21 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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The Army emphasized this after Mỹ Lai.


6 posted on 12/18/2022 2:52:16 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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Many people in this country are illiterate in basic civics, and as a matter of personal opinion, it would have to be something fairly heinous for military personnel to disregard that order. 2020 taught us that police will enforce Executive Orders handed down by governors or mayors, even going so far as to shut down a Virginia restaurant owner in 2022.


7 posted on 12/18/2022 2:59:29 PM PST by Antihero101607
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I did my BCT in ‘69...not too long after My Lai. One of the clasess we had was conducted by a 1LT and was about illegal orders. He went on to explain that a soldier is not obliged to obey an illegal order (or unlawful order...can't recall which word he used). But the problem is he didn't give us a single example of what would constitute and unlawful order.
8 posted on 12/18/2022 3:41:49 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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Ping.


11 posted on 12/18/2022 4:44:29 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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"...required to obey the orders..."

Required to obey lawful orders.

As best as I remember, for an order to be lawful it:

1. Must be issued by competent authority (Usually someone in the chain of command of recipient of the order. An order from the commander of a unit given to a criminal investigator of lower rank to cease his investigation would not be lawful given that the investigator reports through a different chain of command. On the other hand, if the unit was in the field and under attack an order to the investigator to pick up a weapon and help defend the unit might be lawful.)

2. Must be legal.

3. Must be something the recipient of the order can do. (An order to jump off a cliff, flap arms like wings, and fly, would not be lawful.)

And under some circumstances, the recipient of an order who disagrees with the order can protest the order in writing like Captain Biddle in "She Wore A Yellow Ribbon". (Nevermind how I know that.)

20 posted on 12/18/2022 9:37:04 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (c)
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Lay down your arms. Go home.

America is no longer worth fighting for.


21 posted on 12/18/2022 11:54:53 PM PST by NoLibZone (Ruling class noticed our total lack of pushback for how the election & Covid was handled.)
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Enemies foreign and Domestic (if I recall my oath correctly).


24 posted on 12/19/2022 5:49:12 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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