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1 posted on 12/15/2022 11:12:02 AM PST by Red Badger
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Now hydrogen is green hydrogen ,LOL Fools


2 posted on 12/15/2022 11:13:17 AM PST by butlerweave
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Hamsters running a treadmill under the hood is the “greenest” energy source by far. You only have to stop once an a while to feed them. Of course you’re in trouble if they decide to stop running. Maybe a hamster-bot. And forget about speed...

Watch one of the brainless congress-non-persons come up with something like that if they haven’t already...


4 posted on 12/15/2022 11:17:47 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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And how much energy is consumed in producing those sound waves?

(And no, I didn’t read the entire article. Since I’ve been here on FR for 10+ years, tradition dictates that I only have to read the title before commenting.)


5 posted on 12/15/2022 11:18:24 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Yemima? Are whites trying to outdo blacks?...


6 posted on 12/15/2022 11:21:03 AM PST by EEGator
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8 posted on 12/15/2022 11:23:23 AM PST by PGR88
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Fine. What is the ERoEI of the entire process? Hint - it’s negative because H2 is not an energy source.


11 posted on 12/15/2022 11:24:17 AM PST by fretzer
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Nickleback or the Beach Boys?


12 posted on 12/15/2022 11:25:28 AM PST by Jonty30 (You can't spell liberal without the a-hole. )
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This would be great IF The Federal government let’s it happen. They have been against burning hydrogen as well.

Be careful of that bus photo. CA was using hyrdogen powered buses (mostly in LA) but it was an earlier hydrogen platform and the engines burn out. That is, they did a minimal change from diesel to hydrogen and it didn’t work. But building a hydrogen bus or car from scratch should be a green light.


14 posted on 12/15/2022 11:26:14 AM PST by Kaiser8408a (z)
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You can put all those Screaming Leftists to work making hydrogen ,LOL


17 posted on 12/15/2022 11:30:16 AM PST by butlerweave
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“Free beer tomorrow.”


18 posted on 12/15/2022 11:31:46 AM PST by dynachrome (“We cannot save Ukraine by dooming the US economy.” Rand Paul)
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By using high-frequency vibrations to “divide and conquer” individual water molecules during electrolysis, the team managed to split the water molecules to release 14 times more hydrogen compared with standard electrolysis techniques.

I heard it was 1,000,000 times more.

19 posted on 12/15/2022 11:33:56 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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Everything has to be ‘green’.


20 posted on 12/15/2022 11:35:28 AM PST by dljordan
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"the team managed to split the water molecules to release 14 times more hydrogen compared with standard electrolysis"

Standard electrolysis produces hydrogen at about 70 to 80 percent efficiency. So this team is claiming to produce hydrogen at 980 to 1,120 percent efficiency?!?

Next they'll be claiming they can teach pigs to sing.

22 posted on 12/15/2022 11:39:54 AM PST by Carl Vehse (A proud member of the LGBFJB community)
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the number on green house gas is water vapor and they want to use a fuel that’s after use emissions is water vapor.

ugh.


25 posted on 12/15/2022 11:49:24 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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Scientist: “The electrical output of the electrolysis with sound waves was about 14 times greater than electrolysis without them, for a given input voltage. This was equivalent to the amount of hydrogen produced,” Ehrnst said.

The non-scientist say “ the team managed to split the water molecules to release 14 times more hydrogen compared with standard electrolysis techniques”.

Not the same thing. What electrical output? Electrolysis is endergonic ( requires energy, doesn’t release it.)

Maybe she meant, “this process requires 14x higher input energy”. Which begs the question, where did the energy go?

“Show me the free hydrogen”. And by the way, net energy efficiency after separation from the oxygen.

34 posted on 12/15/2022 12:22:59 PM PST by takebackaustin
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It has been some time since I have posted. This article irked me.

This is marketing and nothing more.

There has recently been a renewed interest in a 100 year old technology called Pulse Electrolysis to overcome the natural polarization of the electrodes with oxygen and hydrogen. This has been built into the actual DC circuits to prevent polarization circuit resistance increases in the past.

This group is trying to push a technology that is not necessary, however I figure renewable energy grants are very profitable.

Off the shelf pulse electrolysis is a proven and efficient technology to reduce electrode polarization and does not require new a "mousetrap" invention to improve production efficiencies.

Personally over 30 years ago, I used pulse technology to stop anode passivation for a different application.
35 posted on 12/15/2022 12:31:02 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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“By using high-frequency vibrations to “divide and conquer” individual water molecules during electrolysis, the team managed to split the water molecules to release 14 times more hydrogen compared with standard electrolysis techniques.”

Ok, now how much power did the high-frequency emitters consume?


37 posted on 12/15/2022 12:39:49 PM PST by Boogieman
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Could they use heavy water to start?


38 posted on 12/15/2022 12:48:44 PM PST by ryderann
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Cool stuff! And may actually be put to use.

Anything approaching cheap energy will be a money maker.

That said, Hydrogen has many rules to follow, and “Remember the Hindenberg”.


40 posted on 12/15/2022 1:14:58 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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Drs. Egon Spengler and Ray Stanz pioneered sound technology to transform negative energy in the form of pink slime to positive energy that could make inanimate objects move including a toaster and Lady Liberty


44 posted on 12/15/2022 2:37:46 PM PST by shotgun
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