Posted on 12/15/2022 6:03:02 AM PST by Excellence
I know a guy with safes that have paint jobs that must have cost hundreds of $$. It’s no fun moving several hundred pounds of safe, snd worrying about the paint.
Lots of great advice here, thanks everyone. I will check back later, too, but I need to run to the store and get some Alka-Seltzer. :)
Guns? Safe? I have no idea what you are talking about.
(rolling eyes)
Thanks for the advice. I will now keep the door to that room shut when I have company.
Bigtime.
Gun safes only detour some and slow others down. That said a safe is better than nothing but it needs mounted to the floor so they cannot get it flipped on its back. Once on its back it can be pried open in minutes. Do not get a false since of security with a safe. Think of it as having another layer of security. I personally have a free standing and a built in vault but I also have a high end security camera system that covers every angle of the exterior of the property. Now I have a backup to hand to the Popo if I am ever broken into. Remember security is a multi layer approach starting with your deadbolts and working up from there.
This modular safe is an interesting idea. I’d be interested in seeing two things about them before buying them.
Are they waterproof and can they survive a fall of about 10 feet while loaded with your possessions with that water proofing intact? Water is an enemy of the contents of a safe that is used to protect against fire. Here is a scenario: You load up the safe with guns, money, whatever. House catches fire. Fire department comes and puts the fire out with water. The weight of the safe and the fire result in the safe plunging through the floor into the basement, which is then filled with water during the quenching process. Does the safe survive the fall with its waterproofing intact?
After the fire you try to recover your posessions from a submerged safe. Water is the enemy of firearms that have wood stocks. It is also the enemy of paper documents. Currency will usually survive short term submergence, but not many other paper-type documents will.
Now, clearly, if you live on a slab home then you never face this scenario.
I personally don’t see a problem with that bicycle arsenal.
You’re a big boy now apparently.....go buy your own Christmas and birthday presents.
Be extra sure to destroy the joy of giving by someone who cares.
I am glad you asked this question. Lot of great advice and ideas. I have a 3 ft x 15 foot offset space in my basement wall perfect for a false wall.
As for me destroying the joy of giving.. get him something he can enjoy with you. Get your son a- make your own bacon kit, a big box of omaha steaks.
get him something he can carry and remember you ever time he uses it. A guy can never have enough knives, a nice hunting knife or a k-bar. get him a nice bench rest for his rifles. some lead pellet bags for his gun rests. a couple boxes of ammo. a gore tex rain jacket.
He may know what he wants, but he doesn’t know what he needs. This is as much for my peace of mind as it is for him. He’s put a lot of money and time into his hobby, and I don’t want him to lose it.
A ‘safe’ safe (search for jewelers’ safes) is several tons, withstands serious tools, and costs commensurately.
Everything else is a delaying action.
So consider the use:
- Keeping things organized
- Keeping safe from accidental access (or ‘accidental’) by family/visitors.
- Slowing down thieves — as noted here once there’s a known location and a known schedule, a crew can remove the whole safe quickly and get it open at their leisure pretty quickly.
Also if possible skip the myriad of firearm stickers on the vehicle. Thieves do follow people home to note for later — some cars/trucks look like a shopping list to criminals.
If you need to move the safe around, a pair of 1" iron pipe sections around 2 ft in length plus a good crowbar will help roll the safe around on a concrete floor. If you can find a "safe jack", that is nice, but not great in close quarters.
From forty-plus years of dealing with government safes -
Do not get an electronic lock. The electronic units forced on us ten to fifteen years ago failed regularly. Machinists got to be very good at grinding the drawers open when the electronic locks quit. These were GSA safes with top secret rating when installed in a suitable building - not cheap stuff.
The “old-fashioned” mechanical locks were still functional after thirty or more years use.
I have a safe. Mechanical lock. Stashed out of sight.
My two cents American.
Congratulations, Mom! You raised a fine young man, indeed. Merry gun safe Christmas to you both!!
Why store the ammo in a safe?”
Most of my ammo costs more than $1.00per round.
That’s a lot of money to just have laying by about. It’s usually in boxes or cans with handles. Easy to snatch and grab. Put it in the designated big box!
Some states have criminal liability if you haven’t stored your guns properly, and an under aged kid gets one. Or civilly, you ‘let’ a criminal get your gun and he did damage. Like suing Remington.
Calif has a list of approved gun safes that meet their requirements. That doesn’t make them burglar proof, it just means you kept kids out of your guns (if you lock it).
Gun Safes are to protect you from law enforcement and prosecutors.
Killeen (Ft Hood) have all sorts of dealers and can offer excellent advice.
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