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To: Cathi

Ukraine has retaken 58% of the territory that Russia occupied.

But Russia just took a town. It only took them months.


7 posted on 12/13/2022 12:45:31 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

“Ukraine has retaken 58% of the territory that Russia occupied.”

At the cost of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians. Be proud huh?
‘Ukrainian General estimates Kiev’s losses at hundreds of thousands since Feb’
https://tass.com/politics/1501881
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“But Russia just took a town. It only took them months.”

The game for Ukraine is TAKING TERRITORY.
The game for the Russians is demilitarization (the degrading of) of Ukrainian armed forces.

Given numbers of manpower and military hardware losses the Ukrainians have suffered, who is winning this battle of attrition, peddler?


9 posted on 12/13/2022 12:48:42 PM PST by cranked
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To: DannyTN
Russia hasn't taken Bakhmut. There is fighting nearby, as there has been for months. The soldiers in the video below are not in combat, but shooting video as they pass the train station. Note the rifle one of the guys is using.

Video of Ukrainian fighters in Bakhmut today

53 posted on 12/13/2022 3:28:48 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: DannyTN

Youtube says its still in Ukrainian hands. The Russians have had no success even with terrible loses in human wave attacks. The Russian conscript army is surrendering en Masse! The next move will be a Ukraine advance on Crimea. The war is won for the west!. Russia has lost this illegal war. Even if the Russian use Nukes, the Brave Ukrainians will not stop—they are able to stand the Radiation and keep fighting!


71 posted on 12/13/2022 7:11:35 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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