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To: ifinnegan

That is your right of course.

I’m just thinking out loud here...

The list is very, very short I grant you. However all they would need to do is win NH and Iowa and all of a sudden they’re on top.

Can this happen? I dont know.

Rand or Ron would appeal in NH, no doubt about that.


4 posted on 12/11/2022 11:40:30 PM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan
Rand or Ron would appeal in NH, no doubt about that.

Yea, but do we really want a President who gets beat up in his own front yard? I know I don't.

I want Batman.


7 posted on 12/11/2022 11:47:11 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: RandFan

It’s a wonderful question and I am glad you asked if. There is a lot of room for decent debate on this question. I’ll approach if from a different angle. I am hoping the the usual attacks will be set aside in the interest of the debate.

To begin i will disclose where I did on the political spectrum as you have as well. On 2016 primary invited for Cruz. I didn’t buy the non-natural bien citizen argument. I thought he was a solid conservative and could bring home the Latin American vote which should be a natural demographic. I enthusiastically supported and voted from trump in the general. After Cruz failed to endorse trump at the convention and some subsequent stances he took in the last six years I could not support him for president. Mark Levin is the current political analyst whom is closest to my set of beliefs.

As for the landscape on 2024 there is no clear mood yet of the nation. That is what often determines who will win. In 2016 Obama fatigue had set in. Hilary was an awful candidate who assumed it was her term and between her quotes of basket of deplorables and arrogance of not understanding why she wasn’t ahead by 50 percentage points illustrated her arrogance which drove people away from her.

At the present moment here is the current political factors at play:
Economically: currently inflation is still crushing people. Stsgflation is present. It does not look like Biden will do anything to change this from a economic standpoint. Look for interest rates to rise another 1.5 or 2 basis points until primary season begins. Advantage trump. Trump can run on his results

Socially: The demographics that will elect the next president are suburban women and Latin American. Trump will likely not be able to cure the breach with the soccer mom generation. His personality is one bridge to far and he will not overcome the hardened judgment of a boorish misogynist. As for the Latin vote, Desantis demolished Crist and turned out Latin support not seen. Additionally he is a military officer and can claim the family man image that trump cannot. Advantage Desantis

Electability: what is the oath to 270. While trump can claim judge him by his actions he sure makes a lot of politically unforced errors. I think trump moving the American embassy to Jerusalem forever marks him as the most Israel friendly American politician but he allows mid to be thrown at him by his bone headed Kanye West bromance. Wokeism: this is where a real wild card exists in the race. All the woke nonsense is starting to piss off the middle of the electorate. If this is fostered strong advanced republican. The twitter files and Elon musk is the wildest of cards. He is releasing actual evidence that proves the election manipulations of the left. This should vindicate Trump but he has whined so much about it, he has diluted his position. His stance should be yea, I was robbed but we now know it happened so let’s fix it in the future. Advantage: Weakly Desantis and other candidates (not trump)

The other big questions; who runs on the rat side. Biden is easily beatable. Just look at the man. Problem is he may paradoxically be tough for Trump. It could be turned to look at Trump beat up on the president who is elder statesman and all nice guys. If hunters laptop continues to become a story of debauchery and corruption then anyone but trump walks into the White House. The democrats would probably be in beatable with a centrist and pragmatic candidate (a bill Clinton type). The problem is they no longer exist in the Democratic Party. So that leaves Newsome?. Forget it. Harrison. Kiss of death. Who else can show up for fje democrats? Currently the only people who can win a primary cannot claim the veneer of centrist.

All things considered I think the current most likely republican nominee is a dark horse not on the radar. Youngkin fits the bill. Noem adds the extra benefit of being a woman. Personally i think if she declares and runs Noem is unstoppable. But as I said there are people out there who could declare and swoop in And win

It’s going to be fascinating the next two years.


25 posted on 12/12/2022 3:49:58 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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