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What happens when the federal government no longer protects the states against invasion?
American Thinker ^ | 3 Dec, 2022 | D. Parker

Posted on 12/03/2022 5:00:19 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: Newtoidaho

“The patriots in 1775/1776 knew the answer to that question.”

Yes. Lucky for them UK didn’t have the technology the RATs have today to control the enemy. I don’t see any way good could prevail over evil in today’s America. There is Divine intervention, but I think He has washed His hands of us.


21 posted on 12/03/2022 6:14:08 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: MtnClimber

Time for the people to take control of the country.


22 posted on 12/03/2022 6:14:33 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: WKUHilltopper

We are rapidly or have already passed an 1860 moment here. Washington, George that is, warned us to not allow the political parties to take control of the government and to stay out of European entanglements. We have so far gone beyond that advice as to almost not be able to see it in the rear view mirror. Read to Preamble of the Constitution and try to keep a straight face determining how we have drifted from the reason we have a central government.

The solution? Bankrupt the place and reorganize it. Spin off those unites that wish to go. I no more with to be ruled by California style perversity than I do by China.


23 posted on 12/03/2022 6:33:11 AM PST by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: MtnClimber

We have a similar issue here in Upper Michigan where folks from outside the area come in to buy property to make as bug outs, vacation homes or Airbnb’s. They want costs here such as property taxes low such so they oppose industry moving in.


24 posted on 12/03/2022 6:49:41 AM PST by Armscor38
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To: MtnClimber

The following is what happens:

“A recent report from the Texas Department of Public Safety revealed that 297,000 non-citizens had been “booked into local Texas jails between June 1, 2011 and July 31, 2019.” So these are non-citizens who allegedly committed local crimes, not immigration violations.

The report noted that a little more than two-thirds (202,000) of those booked in Texas jails were later confirmed as illegal immigrants by the federal government.

According to the Texas report, over the course of their criminal careers those illegal immigrants were charged with committing 494,000 criminal offenses.

Some of these cases are still being prosecuted, but the report states that there have already been over 225,000 convictions. Those convictions represent: 500 homicides; 23,954 assaults; 8,070 burglaries; 297 kidnappings; 14,178 thefts; 2,026 robberies; 3,122 sexual assaults; 3,840 sexual offenses; 3,158 weapon charges and tens of thousands of drug and obstruction charges”

https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/crimes-illegal-immigrants-widespread-across-us-sanctuaries-shouldnt


25 posted on 12/03/2022 7:00:31 AM PST by Bob434 (question)
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To: MtnClimber
From the article:

What is the point of voting and elections in general if the voice of the people isn't heard?
Voice of the people?? When state governments violate their election statutes and the federal government takes no action it is tantamount to violating the lst Amendment right of free speech.

What happens when the federal government no longer protects the states against invasion?
More direct question: "What happens when the federal government facilitates invasion of the states?"

26 posted on 12/03/2022 7:03:42 AM PST by frog in a pot (We are all "frogs in a pot", and it is time to jump out.)
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To: MtnClimber

At that point you have to ask what use the federal government is.


27 posted on 12/03/2022 7:06:48 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: MtnClimber

Also, more than 1/4 of all murders were committed by illegals. Think about that. 28% of the murders were by people here illegally. 2500 citizens and others lost their lives because people here illegally, hardened criminals, are allowed to walk our streets

That is what happens when the left refuse to protect our borders and nation


28 posted on 12/03/2022 7:07:01 AM PST by Bob434 (question)
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To: MtnClimber

Then maybe the blue states will have to be allowed to collapse and then rebuilt with better election integrity.


With a Democrat in the white house they will just be bailed out


29 posted on 12/03/2022 7:14:52 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: ConservativeInPA

Yup. If they can do it so can we.


30 posted on 12/03/2022 7:15:46 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: MtnClimber

But remember supposedly red states are just blue States waiting to be recognized. Former Red States like Texas, Georgia, Arizona, are scheduled to become Blue States eventually and especially Florida, with enough effort and left-wing financing.


31 posted on 12/03/2022 7:17:42 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: Brilliant

Very useful point. They’re actually is a list of very particular roles and responsibilities of the Federal government and the country would be much better if they stuck to them. Problem is they suck at the most basic responsibilities, maybe due to all the additional roles that have been piled on over more than 200 years but have no constitutional mandate.


32 posted on 12/03/2022 7:20:29 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: MtnClimber

We don’t have a federal government right now it’s a coupe in action.


33 posted on 12/03/2022 7:27:50 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: epluribus_2

At this point, the federal government is mostly a piggy bank for entitlements.


34 posted on 12/03/2022 7:49:03 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: MtnClimber

If we were to follow the US Constitution, it is the MILITIA that has the exclusive task of repelling invasion. It is the only institution codified as being necessary for a free state. No other institution is so described.

But we have become a nation of dumbasses, thinking the National Guard, as it is today, is the constitutional militia designed by our Founding Fathers.

1. The Dick Act of 1906 and its subsequent NDAA is unconstitutional because:
a. the militia has no part in overseas operations it its 3-fold mission statement
b. in federal service, it only enforces laws of the Union
c. service in the militia is compulsory— there is no such thing as a reserve or unorganized militia— that is an idea stemming from the 1906 legislation to send more boys into the worthless WW1 meat-grinder

2. Practically, there is only one way to return; but it will be a long, long fight:
a. win the counties, then the states
b. support Constitutional Sheriffs as if your life depends on it, for two reasons:
(1) the sheriff is the last elected official that decides what is/isn’t constitutional
(2) the sheriff can form sheriff auxiliaries; giving qualified immunity for all deputized members; thus preserving the legal monopoly of violence at the local level; and friends, it is all about legitimate violence to confront evil; the Bible calls it the sword of government (Romans 13:1-4)
c. massive education; read Dr Edwin Vieira and support Sheriff Mack
d. vet candidates that have a constitutional militia in their platform

Or we can say “Screw it” and go quietly in the night. There is no other way.


35 posted on 12/03/2022 8:36:55 AM PST by Salvavida (“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.”)
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335 million hugely diverse people cannot be peacefully governed as one nation.

We have only one serious political issue to solve...

How do we divide the former "United" states without violence and without economic destruction?

36 posted on 12/03/2022 8:39:45 AM PST by zeestephen (43,000)
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We need to go "Full Jefferson" on them:

...it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness...

37 posted on 12/03/2022 9:41:06 AM PST by GingisK
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FROM THE ARTICLE. Image: Don Hankins via Flickr, CC BY 2.0.
38 posted on 12/03/2022 9:57:43 AM PST by matthew fuller (Murrill McLean Award, for cowardice by a Policeman, shooting of 12 lb. Mini-Dachshund. Danville, VA)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You, and others on this thread, are completely correct. The course that the country is now on leads only to disaster and oblivion. The country has gone round the bend. Wake up Patriots!


39 posted on 12/03/2022 10:09:36 AM PST by matthew fuller (March 19, 2023- International Global Warming Day.)
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To: MayflowerMadam
"Yes. Lucky for them UK didn't have the technology the RATs have today to control the enemy. I don't see any way good could prevail over evil in today's America. There is Divine intervention, but I think He has washed His hands of us.

As you say, there is no good way out. One thing that could change the dynamic is an insane, desperate and dying Putin could initiate a full on ICBM nuclear war and destroy dozens of large American cities. The Democrat base will be destroyed and a nuclear Winter will follow. What happens next will be a new world with unknown characteristics.

40 posted on 12/06/2022 10:23:45 AM PST by Truth29
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