Posted on 11/28/2022 5:40:58 AM PST by MtnClimber
Excellent summary.
Worth reading slowly!
This.
You should read the book. Queeg was a jerk.
VDH can be a real lunk head. This is one of those times.
VDH flop.
Which POTUS was as successful as Trump? Look at what Trump accomplished:
Who the heck can accomplish the above in four years while being impeached twice and investigated by Obama's Weaponized Agencies?
JFK needed that like he needed another hole in his head.
We must NEVER forget that McCain, and after he went to hell, his people - DELIBERATELY gave the Democrats TWO US Senate seats in Arizona.
And it looks like that is in perpetuity.
Oh yeah it’s style over substance BS again....
VDH is usually pretty good. Ths is not one of those times.
By most, if not all accounts, Bligh was a masterful seaman. Bligh was backstabbed by those he had appointed, and was acquitted repeatedly in multiple trials brought by pissants not worthy of shining his boots trying to discredit him.
Every time the history is re-examined, Bligh is viewed in more and more favorable light, much like I suspect Donald J. Trump will be decades and centuries from now.
I don’t view Trump as flawed. That’s just a meme being pushed by the RINOs, the deep state and the MSM. Given what Trump accomplished against all odds in four years I’m not seeing the flaws. Its a bunch of BS.
A great reasoned essay on the various assaults made on Trump as candidate and President by never=Trumpers and various formal political enemies and the Deep State.
A long read because the subject matter requires it, but so clearly outlines the details of the harassment of Trump that it should be required reading in every school and by every patriot.
Great post. BTW - ignore Vermouth LT. For it is nothing more than a never-Trump troll with an acute case of pretentious moral superiority.
‘There are a lot of parallels in the treatment of Trump by the Republican Party and the treatment of Captain Queeg by his own crew, in particular, the officers of the USS Caine.’
to begin with, yeslthe Caine Mutiny was a remarkable movie, even though it was almost not made because the Navy refused to acknowledge even a fictitious mutiny;) and yes there could be parallels to Trump, if we look hard enough...I think Hanson’s allusion to Queeg was rearding his downfall, his obdurate belief that everyone was plotting to get him, to toss him aside, leading to that memorable scene with the strawberries(the strawberries, that’s where I had them), and the inevitable clicking of the balls in his hand, signifying his descent into unreality...
as far as the identifying the Caine officers with recalcitrant party members, yes, the duplicitous Keefer (a bang up performance by MacMurry) fits the bill, except that in politics, unlike the Navy, all things are fair game, and to think that blind faith and loyalty is a political trope is pure lunacy...I don’t think the party members you singled out for derision resemble Keefer so much as Willie Keith, who seemed happy enough to come out on whichever side he felt had the upper hand...Keefer at least had a cause (revolting as it may have been, but Keith wobbled in between adulation and repudiation of Queeg, and seeing the wounded captain, cast his lot with the despicable Keefer...all of this could have been brought out in the movie had Robert Francis not been such a limited actor (brutal seems too harsh, but truer) and for that matter, Van Johnson could have fleshed out Maryk’s character much better, he was perfecly capable of portraying a man who’s attempting to discern truth among shifting points of view and events...
whatever, it is interesting to apply fictitious occurences to true happenings, a societal mirror, so to speak, which topnotch writers like Wouk could hold up to us so we can use our brains to think more clearly...
‘Bligh was a masterful seaman.’
perhaps; if I’m not mistaken, the Bounty was his first captaincy, and this no doubt played upon his judgement...
‘Bligh was backstabbed by those he had appointed’
no; Bligh was waylaid by one commissioned officer, Fletcher Christian, and two or so midshipman...the other officers of Bligh’s contingent stuck with him, even on the longboat, a few dying from the exposure...
‘Bligh is viewed in more and more favorable light, much like I suspect Donald J. Trump will be decades and centuries from now.’
yes, if Bligh’s real life is held up to the simplistic portrayal of him by Charles Laughton (the better depiction of Bligh was by Trevor Howard in the otherwise ridiculous 1962 movie); controversy dogged him, just as it has Trump, by both duplicitous miscreants and those who thought they were in the right...
That must be a new kind of politics. Does that actually get candidates elected?
Quite an essay. Well done.
Three thoughts:
1) Nixon was treated in a similar manner as Trump.
Nixon obsessed about his low upbringing and raged against the left wing media and the Harvard commies who hated him. It was a class thing.
2) Establishment Republicans treated the Tea Party the same way that they treated MAGA. They are Vichy Republicans. They are not on our side. (I coined the phrase “Vichy Republicans in the 80s. I wish I copyrighted it.)
3) Trump deserves an opportunity to exact revenge on the deep state. He would be doing it for us. I want revenge.
Trump has flaws. You have them. I have them. General Patton had them, as did Grant, Lee, Churchill, Halsey, Nimitz, and Eisenhower.
We all have them. The difference in my view is the gaslighting effort by the Left to somehow exaggerate them and paint them as disabling, which they aren’t.
Trump’s performance, with all of that heaped on him, is proof positive of that.
I agree 100% with your post. Nixon was flawed in many respects as well, with the EPA, and price controls primary among them, but he was nothing like what we have seen since 1988 in the Oval Office.
Nixon was largely pilloried for his hand in getting Alger Hiss outed and punished. The Left never forgot his part in what happened to one of their communist allies.
But Nixon loved his country, much the same as I see Trump does, and in the same fashion.
Just my opinion.
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