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New 48-Volt Quant supercar can go 600 miles on a tank of ‘salt water’
https://bgr.com/ ^ | November 24th, 2022 | Joshua Hawkins

Posted on 11/25/2022 12:19:05 AM PST by Jonty30

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https://jalopnik.com/the-supercar-that-runs-using-saltwater-is-likely-bullsh-1637600538


41 posted on 11/25/2022 5:24:45 AM PST by Drago
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To: newfreep

An insertion of the word “ostensibly” would have helped. I have no problem with shifts in methods of propulsion, but we are deluded if we think we have control over planet temps.


42 posted on 11/25/2022 5:27:18 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (/s)
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To: kosciusko51

Thank you.


43 posted on 11/25/2022 5:28:17 AM PST by Jonty30 (You can't spell liberal without the a-hole. )
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I suggest leftists who believe CO2 is evil should do their part and STOP EXHALING THEIR OWN CO2.

As a bonus, that would solve many, many issues.


44 posted on 11/25/2022 5:35:15 AM PST by newfreep ("There is no race problem...just a problem race")
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To: Jonty30

There’s a sucker born every minute.


45 posted on 11/25/2022 5:41:42 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Gay State Conservative

Hydrogen is not an energy source, it’s a storage medium. There is untapped chemical energy in fossil fuels and radionuclides.

There is no free hydrogen. Hydrogen is obtained by using another energy source to chemically separate it from other sources.

There is also untapped energy in renewables, such as solar insolation, wind and falling water. Wind and falling water are a result of solar insolation. Wind and solar are diffuse and intermittent. Hydrogen or pumped storage of water, or compressed air, can be used to concentrate and store energy from “renewables”.

Hydrogen is portable, but cannot compete with fossil fuels in terms of energy density or safety.

The reason that renewables and hydrogen have not caught on, with notable exceptions, is cost and inefficiency.


46 posted on 11/25/2022 5:42:04 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: Bigbrown
"Looks cool but how would it tow my #12,000 boat compared to my 6.7?"

In the future, privately owned recreational boats will not be allowed.. Perhaps you will be allowed one small inflatable....intertube.

47 posted on 11/25/2022 5:45:03 AM PST by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
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To: Sirius Lee

As my chemistry teacher said, “If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate.”


48 posted on 11/25/2022 5:45:11 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: Jonty30

The “science” here appears to be CNN and Fauci level.
Not believing a word.
And I would love to be wrong.


49 posted on 11/25/2022 5:49:24 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Yo-Yo

Sulfuric acid is what is used in lead acid batteries.


50 posted on 11/25/2022 5:54:04 AM PST by jurroppi1 (The Left doesn't have ideas, it has cliches. H/T Flick Lives)
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To: Jonty30

Salt water is the electrolyte in some sort of battery, its not powering the vehicle.


51 posted on 11/25/2022 5:54:42 AM PST by Husker24 (Pp)
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To: Jonty30

and yet another crackpot scheme comes to light in order to feed off of big money, while providing technobabble as an explanation. that means, to me, that this is BS like those giant seagong retirement luxury hotels that crop her every now and again, and nuclear airplanes


52 posted on 11/25/2022 6:00:24 AM PST by camle (keep and open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Jonty30

Those vehicles are powered the same way as Verne’s Nautilus.


53 posted on 11/25/2022 6:04:01 AM PST by GingisK
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To: kosciusko51

Yup,I figured that out on that very day (1/3/2014).


54 posted on 11/25/2022 6:08:29 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (I Miss Jimmy Carter)
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To: jurroppi1
Sulfuric acid is what is used in lead acid batteries.

Thank you, mea culpa.

55 posted on 11/25/2022 6:20:32 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: V_TWIN

I only drive my Flux Capacitor from time to time.


56 posted on 11/25/2022 6:31:19 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Jonty30

The real problem is in the chemistry. Salt ions with any plate metal just doesn’t have much potential for power.


57 posted on 11/25/2022 6:33:35 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Gay State Conservative

The problem with hydrogen is that it must be obtained from something, like petroleum. If you get it from water using hydrolysis you must use the same amount of power that you’ll get when the hydrogen is used as a propellant. So, where does the power for either method obtained?


58 posted on 11/25/2022 6:37:22 AM PST by GingisK
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To: reviled downesdad

Do what the Russians do. Build a fire under the engine before trying to start it.


59 posted on 11/25/2022 6:38:25 AM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK
I'd be interested in a hybrid car that's BEV/HEV, not BEV/gas. The reason is I like my BEV for local driving, and it's okay for long trip driving if my wife is with me (since she likes to stop every 200 miles anyway, and since our EV charges up in 10-15 minutes at a 350kW charger). The main thing I like about my EV is that I can charge it 90% free with the solar that powers my home (90% of the entire power needed for my all-electric home, including charging the EV for local driving).

But on trips in charging deserts (i.e. through Mississippi and Louisiana) I take my ICE pickup. If, however, I had a hybrid HEV/EV, the hydrogen could get me hundreds of miles when I have no chargers. So why not just make BEV's with more battery capacity? Well, batteries are very heavy -- adding hydrogen doesn't add much weight to add range.

But where would the hydrogen come from? Well, I could get an electrolyzer to make hydrogen from water, I could run the electrolyzer with solar. The one problem with an electrolyzer is they are horribly inefficient: a loss of about 50% of power in the return trip of using power to make hydrogen, store it (particularly in a solid medium), then retrieve it later to make power from it. Obviously, I'd rather use my solar power to power my home and charge my home batteries and charge my EV and have much better throughput. However, there are days when all of those are charged up and I still have more solar than I have a place for it to go. Those days I could run the electrolyzer to build up hydrogen for an every now and then long trip.

My solar inverters already operate on the algorithm for incoming solar: 1) power the house first, if there's solar left, 2) charge the home batteries, if batteries are charged at least 70%, 3) power a separate electrical panel to charge the EV with the "excess power" outlet (for days I don't really need a charge in my EV because I half half a "tank" left, but I'll take a charge in it if it's free power from solar). It'd be easy-breezy to add a 4th step and power the electrolyzer only when my home solar batteries are 100% charged. That'd give me free miles for a long trip.

60 posted on 11/25/2022 7:10:11 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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