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To: Cathi

“But, they are now treating Ukraine as a real enemy. Previously they did not and this is not understood in the West.”

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That is incorrect as the West knows exactly what is going on here, because they orchestrated this whole dubious tactic. The West will not let Russia end this war. This is WWIII and Russia had no real options in the starting of this war and will certainly be controlled in its influence to end it. Russia will be forced to retaliate against their true opponent and even that will not end this war.

The West is just getting started.


12 posted on 11/23/2022 3:11:45 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo

“… The West is just getting started.”
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You clearly have not been paying attention, IMHO.


13 posted on 11/23/2022 3:15:50 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX.)
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To: jacknhoo

I agree with you that the West started this war and I agree they, up until recently, wanted to continue it for as long as possible in an attempt to “bleed Russia white.”

What I disagree with is “The West will not let Russia end this war.” They NOW want out of this so bad they can taste it..:-)

Russia has been destroying Ukraine’s infrastructure and in many cases it will be years before it is fully repaired. Russia has switched gears and dramatically enlarged a reasonably well trained force at a time when Ukraine has literally run out of manpower. As MacGregor says in another part of that video I posted is that Ukraine’s new manpower is down to 16 year old boys and over 55 year old men...all untrained.

Russians have reported that Ukraine’s offensives involved thousands of men in September and early October. Then they were in the “hundreds” in late October. Now, though they do continue to wage multiple offensives (all of which fail) they do so with forces that number in the dozens.

The Biden administration pressures NATO partners for more weapons for Ukraine endlessly and getting very poor cooperation currently. No, Croatia will not participate in training troops, no Lithuania will not send the anti-air defense items they had promised (they say they need to keep them for there own defense) no Italy will not send more heavy weapons; just humanitarian aid, etc.

The West is out of useable weapons to send Ukraine. Interestingly when I read the Russian Ministry of Defense report each day they are now reporting reduced tank kills; but lots of truck and car kills. In other words, the Ukrainians have very few tanks left in the battles. Many of the troops come by unarmored car or truck.

Europe is experiencing more angry protests all the time and we haven’t even gotten into the freezing situation.

I think MacGregor, Ritter, Johnson, etc. are right. We are in the beginning of the end. Russia’s large offensive (with 3 times the initial manpower) against a country with minimal electricity, heat, water, transportation and very little effective fighting manpower will not be able to prolong this war even if that is what the Biden Administration wants.


39 posted on 11/23/2022 4:29:17 PM PST by Cathi
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To: jacknhoo

“The West will not let Russia end this war. “

Russia can end this war tomorrow by just leaving the 15% territory of Ukraine it has now (down from 27% in March) or they will get chased out with thousands of Russian soldiers dead


76 posted on 12/04/2022 8:31:44 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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