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Grandfather of Oklahoma Teen Killed by Homeowner in Burglary Says AR-15 Made for ‘Unfair’ Fight
RNN ^ | November 18, 2022 | Jim Clayburn |

Posted on 11/21/2022 5:27:30 PM PST by george76

Three Oklahoma teenagers were killed when they broke into a house and were met by a homeowner with an AR-15. Now the grandfather of one of the teenagers is speaking out about his grandson’s death.

According to KTUL-TV, Leroy Schumacher, grandfather of 17-year-old Jacob Redfearn, believes the death of Redfearn was unjustified because the homeowner’s AR-15 gave him an unfair advantage over the three burglars.

Speaking to KTUL, Schumacher acknowledged that breaking into a house was “stupid,” but death was not the appropriate consequence.

“What these three boys did was stupid,” Schumacher said. “They knew they could be punished for it but they did not deserve to die.”

“Brass knuckles against an AR-15? C’mon. Who was afraid for their life?” Schumacher said.

The homeowner who pulled the trigger has not been charged with any crimes because police say he acted in self-defense. But Schumacher reinterated his belief that the consequences literally did not fit the crime.

“There’s got to be a limit to that law, I mean he shot all three of them — there was no need for that,” he told KTUL.

In addition to Redfearn, 19-year old Maxwell Cook and 16-year old Jake Woodruff were also shot and killed in the home invasion. Getaway driver, 21-year-old Elizabeth Rodriguez, was not injured but later arrested and charged with three counts of first-degree murder, one count of first-degree burglary and one count of second-degree burglary.

Police also say Rodriguez admitted to planning the burglary.

More from CNN:

Rodriguez went to police in Broken Arrow, a Tulsa suburb, and told them she was involved. Oklahoma state law says that first-degree murder occurs if “any other person takes the life of a human being during … first degree burglary.” Another condition is if a person causes the death of another person with “malice aforethought.”

In the end, Schumacher said he supports the Second Amendment right to bear arms but doesn’t agree with killing home invaders.

“These boys’ families are going to suffer with this the rest of their lives, we have to live with this the rest of our lives,” he said. “You can’t change history, but you can damn sure learn from it, and maybe some kids will learn from this.”


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Society
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ar15; armedcitizen; banglist; brassknuckles; brokenarrow; criminalgang; demented; elizabethrodriguez; grandpasanidiot; homeinvasion; idiotgene; jacobredfearn; jakewoodruff; jimclayburn; ktul; leroyschumacher; maxwellcook; nra; oklahoma; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; tulsa
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To: george76

Dude, you break into someone home, steal their property, you deserve EVERYTHIG that’s coming back at ya. Everything.


121 posted on 11/21/2022 8:01:30 PM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: george76

A case of stupid that doesn’t get a second chance ... life is so unfair, but that’s life.


122 posted on 11/21/2022 8:20:03 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: gundog

The other two kids would also be dead if he used a semi-auto shotgun.


123 posted on 11/21/2022 8:28:06 PM PST by packagingguy
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To: algore

I think you mentioned that actor’s lipstick thing once before and I tried to unthink about it. Yuck.

Now I binge watch Criminal Minds which I never saw even one episode from first run.

But now I imagine about 99% of the Dems around me in town are evil felons and I yearn to see them brought to justice and subjected to slow torture before they hurt more innocent victims. Worse if I see Leftist Media on TV.
Not a good thing for me.


124 posted on 11/21/2022 8:44:50 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: george76

Gramps, here’s the advice you should have provided to your grandson; “Never bring brass knuckles to a gun fight. And don’t break into somebody’s house and expect a friendly welcome.”


125 posted on 11/21/2022 8:52:09 PM PST by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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To: george76

you want fair??? stay yer azz home...


126 posted on 11/21/2022 9:01:26 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: george76

If a criminal invades my home I hope the fight will be unfair in the extreme. I am armed in the extreme. My dog is useless except she barks like hell to the unknown at the door. She will tell me it is not my friend in the night.

Oddly she knows the sound of my friends cars and trucks. If such she barks a friendly hello that means come in and rub me. If she does not know the sound it is, “who the hell are you” and my master will tell me if you are a “good guy.”

A good dog is your friend and protector.


127 posted on 11/21/2022 9:18:25 PM PST by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST)
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To: george76

The homeowner didn’t hurt his finger pulling the trigger, did he? That would make the ending less happy.


128 posted on 11/21/2022 9:19:53 PM PST by ArcadeQuarters (Remember the 2020 backstabbers. No more RINOs ever!)
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To: george76
"“Brass knuckles against an AR-15? C’mon. Who was afraid for their life?” Schumacher said."

I am old and can be beaten to death with brass knuckles and kicked to death by blows to my head. My Glock 17 of which I am most adept with a green laser and tactical light will kill you. It lives by my bedside as does an AR-15 close by. The AR is sighted in for 100 yards zero.

129 posted on 11/21/2022 9:55:49 PM PST by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST)
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To: george76

Sorry Leroy. The boys did deserve to die. They knew what they were doing with a home invasion. And now they serve as a warning to others not to do home invasions.


130 posted on 11/21/2022 11:40:25 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70
Now we see why the grandson acted the way he did..

When you tell a kid that the teacher shouldn't have done that, or you didnt deserve that, you get adults who think " stupid shouldn't hurt ..much.." and you f around and find out your parents were wrong..

IE you play games with someone who wasn't raised by your Godless family.

Thankyou dad for never telling me " You didnt deserve that " EVER.

131 posted on 11/22/2022 12:49:42 AM PST by Ikeon (The bible tells you NOT to fool around and find out. Doing any wrong has one punishment. )
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To: gundog

Let me guess. This was yet another son of obama being culled from the gene pool by an older white man?

How’d I do?


132 posted on 11/22/2022 1:25:48 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: george76

Stop. Or I will shoot.

Sounds pretty clear to me. What did they think would happen?


133 posted on 11/22/2022 3:56:32 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: george76

Totally demented reasoning. They all got what they deserved.


134 posted on 11/22/2022 7:25:10 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: george76; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; ...
Yeah, three serial burglars get capped during a burglary, that does sound unfair. Obviously they understood the risks of burglary, or they wouldn't have had a getaway driver.

135 posted on 11/22/2022 8:14:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv (And good riddance.)
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To: george76

This story repeats itself every time.

Some dumb kid or kids break into someones place, and wind up being shot by a homeowner...

Then they find some relative to feed the “they did wrong but didn’t deserve to die” line for a story.

This wasn’t someone walking down the street with his gun looking for someone to shoot, they broke into their house... You break into someone’s house, you risk being killed... I know teenagers and kids don’t always think things through but this is an absolute reality of the consequences of making a very poor decision.

I highly doubt this homeowner wanted to kill 3 people that day... I am sorry for your loss, I truly am... However, trying to blame the homeowner for protecting their life, family and property is improper.

Hopefully others will learn from your grandchild’s mistake.


136 posted on 11/22/2022 8:22:11 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I don’t know if they got what they “deserved”, but they did get what can certainly happen if you break into someone else’s home.

If someone breaks into my home, I hope that the situation ends without me needing to kill them, however, don’t think for one second that I will hesitate to do so, to protect my family and person.


137 posted on 11/22/2022 8:24:43 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: SunkenCiv

The grandfather’s a fool.


138 posted on 11/22/2022 8:27:27 AM PST by GOPJ (Lists of fake hate crimes by date: https://fakehatecrimes.org/)
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To: HamiltonJay

Three teens or anybody breaks into our home they get shot immediately. Crime is a dangerous profession.


139 posted on 11/22/2022 8:59:15 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: GOPJ

Probably also a lifelong criminal.


140 posted on 11/22/2022 9:16:31 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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