Posted on 11/14/2022 10:28:41 PM PST by hardspunned
Mitch McConnell got some of that tax payer FXT Ukraine money. Now you know why the uni-party @GOP @DNC didn’t want a audit of Ukraine money & had to get rid of Trump.
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My thought, as well.
Ok lets take this one step at a time:
“Ukraine put money sent to them from the US into FTX.”
First question:
Was this money given to FTX as an investment or as a means to convert crypto private donations into fiat? This point is critical.
to clarify:
Was this money given to FTX as an investment or as a conversion of crypto private donations into fiat?
I am analytical. I am a programmer. I need to see facts. I dont use bias,conjecture, & assumptions to form my opinion.
Get off of your pedestal. You’re trying to defend Ukraine/Democrat graft, as always.
The evidence is there. You just refuse to see it.
Doesn’t matter what they called it, it’s still money laundering.
https://web.archive.org/web/20221112024919/https://www.weforum.org/organizations/ftx
30 second search buddy.
30 second search.
I laughed when I read his post. When you’re laundering money, you can label it anything. LOL
Again,
The only thing stated in the article that I read yesterday was that Ukraine used FTX to convert crypto dontation to fiat currency.
If there are other documented actions that Ukraine did other than this please cite them.
converting crypto to fiat is not laundering.
Ukraine gives X in cryto to FTX, FTX gives back to Ukraine the same value in X in fiat currency.
Thats not laundering, thats currency conversion.
Cant believe i have to explain this.
That’s why it’s all over the news, riiiight?
Because it’s totally legit?
You sure that’s the route you want?
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....and once again, many RICO cases have been successfully prosecuted by showing that fungible money has been cross-purposed in a criminal matter.
Note this:
A plaintiff may bring a private civil action, or a law enforcement agency may bring a public criminal action, for violations of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO). See 18 U.S.C. § 1964(c). The RICO statute prohibits four types of activities: (1) investing in, (2) acquiring, or (3) conducting or participating in an enterprise with income derived from a pattern of racketeering activity or collection of an unlawful debt, or (4) conspiring to commit any of the first three types of activity.You state you are a computer developer. So am I. However, I was VERY close to pursuing law instead, so I am here to tell you that what FTX did -- setting up this Ukranian slush fund; and then sending money to Democrats, all while the US sends money to Ukraine, could easily show RICO-forbidden organized criminality.
18 U.S.C. § 1962(c)
To recover under § 1962(c), a plaintiff must prove (1) conduct, (2) of an enterprise, (3) through a pattern, (4) of racketeering activity (known as "predicate acts"), (5) causing injury to the plaintiff's "business or property" by the conduct constituting the violation. See Living Designs, Inc. v. E.I. Dupont de Nemours & Co., 431 F.3d 353, 361 (9th Cir. 2005).
Conduct: The conduct element of § 1962(c) requires that the defendant have some part in directing the affairs of the enterprise. Liability is not limited to those with primary responsibility for the enterprise's affairs, nor is a formal position within the enterprise required. However, the defendant is not liable under § 1962(c) unless the defendant has participated in the operation or management of the enterprise itself. See Reves v. Ernst & Young, 507 U.S. 170, 179 (1993) (holding that accountants hired to perform audit of cooperative’s records did not participate in "operation or management" of cooperative’s affairs by failing to inform cooperative’s board of directors that cooperative was arguably insolvent). In determining whether the conduct element has been satisfied, relevant questions include whether the defendant "occupies a position in the chain of command," "knowingly implements [the enterprise’s] decisions," or is "indispensable to achieving the enterprise’s goal." Walter v. Drayson, 538 F.3d 1244, 1248-49 (9th Cir. 2008) (holding that attorney’s performance of services for alleged associated-in-fact enterprise was not sufficient to satisfy § 1962(c)’s conduct element).
Enterprise: An "enterprise includes any individual, partnership, corporation, association, or other legal entity, and any union or group of individuals associated in fact although not a legal entity." 18 U.S.C. § 1961(4). The "definition is not very demanding." Odom, 486 F.3d at 548. RICO does not require that either the racketeering enterprise or the predicate acts of racketeering be motivated by an economic purpose. Nat’l Org. for Women, Inc. v. Scheidler, 510 U.S. 249, 262 (1994).
For purposes of § 1962(c), a single individual or entity cannot be both the RICO enterprise and an individual defendant. See Rae v. Union Bank, 725 F.2d 478, 481 (9th Cir. 1984) (holding that plaintiff could not assert RICO claim against defendant bank because bank was also alleged to be RICO enterprise). However, "the inability of a corporation to operate except through its officers is not an impediment to § 1962(c) suits." Sever v. Alaska Pulp Corp., 978 F.2d 1529, 1534 (9th Cir. 1992) (holding that individual officers of corporation could be named as defendants even though corporation was alleged to be enterprise and could not act without its officers); see United States v. Benny, 786 F.2d 1410, 1416 (9th Cir. 1986) (stating that corporate form is "sort of legal shield for illegal activity that Congress intended RICO to pierce."). An organizational defendant can be a member of a larger associated-in-fact enterprise. See Living Designs, 431 F.3d at 361 (finding associated-in-fact enterprise could be formed between defendant corporation, law firms employed by it and expert witnesses retained by law firm).
An associated-in-fact enterprise is "a group of persons associated together for a common purpose of engaging in a course of conduct." Boyle v. United States, 556 U.S. 938, 945-46 (2009) (quoting United States v. Turkette, 452 U.S. 576, 580 (1981)). Its existence is proven through evidence of an ongoing organization, formal or informal, and evidence that the various associates function as a continuing unit. No particular organizational structure, separate or otherwise, is necessary for an associated-in-fact enterprise. Odom, 486 F.3d at 551 (finding that plaintiffs had sufficiently alleged associated-in-fact enterprise between defendant software manufacturer and co-defendant retailer wherein defendants established cross-marketing scheme for transferring plaintiffs’ personal information from retailer to manufacturer in order to allow manufacturer to improperly charge plaintiffs for services); see also Boyle, 556 U.S. at 945-46 ("It is apparent that an association-in-fact enterprise must have at least three structural features: a purpose, relationships among those associated with the enterprise, and longevity sufficient to permit these associates to pursue the enterprise's purpose."). Defendants in RICO actions must have had "some knowledge of the nature of the enterprise . . . to avoid an unjust association of the defendant[s] with the crimes of others," but the requirement of a common purpose may be met so long as the defendants were "each aware of the essential nature and scope of [the] enterprise and intended to participate in it." United States v. Christensen, 801 F.3d 970, 985 (9th Cir. 2015). A RICO enterprise is not defeated even when some of the enterprise’s participants lack detailed knowledge of all of the other participants or their activities. Instead, "it is sufficient that the defendant know the general nature of the enterprise and know that the enterprise extends beyond his individual role." Id. In particular cases, "the evidence used to prove the pattern of racketeering activity and the evidence establishing an enterprise" may overlap. Boyle, 556 U.S. at 947. However, "enterprise" and "conduct" are two separate and necessary elements of a civil RICO claim. Odom, 486 F.3d at 549 ("The ‘enterprise’ is the actor, and the ‘pattern of racketeering activity’ is an activity in which that actor engages.").
Pattern: A pattern is defined as "at least two acts of racketeering activity" within ten years of each other. 18 U.S.C. § 1961(5). Proving two predicate acts is a necessary condition for finding a violation, but may not be sufficient. See H.J., Inc. v. Nw. Bell Tel. Co., 492 U.S. 229, 238 (1989). To establish a "pattern of racketeering activity," the predicate acts must be both "related" and "continuous." Id.; Sever, 978 F.2d at 1529.
Related conduct "embraces criminal acts that have the same or similar purposes, results, participants, victims, or methods of commission, or otherwise are interrelated by distinguishing characteristics and are not isolated events." H.J., Inc., 492 U.S. at 240. Relatedness of the alleged or proven predicate acts is rarely an issue. See Medallion Television Enters., Inc. v. SelecTV of Cal., Inc., 833 F.2d 1360, 1363 (9th Cir. 1987) (finding alleged predicate acts to be related when all were directed toward inducing plaintiff to enter into joint venture and provide funds to obtain certain rights). However, merely alleging that the predicate acts share the same participants is insufficient to establish that they are related. See Howard v. Am. Online Inc., 208 F.3d 741, 749 (9th Cir. 2000) (finding that when the purpose, result, victim and method of one set of predicate acts were "strikingly different" from those of the other set of alleged predicate acts, fact that both sets implicated same participants was not enough to establish relatedness).
The continuity requirement reflects Congress’s concern in RICO with long-term criminal conduct. See H.J., Inc., 492 U.S. at 242. Plaintiffs must prove either "open-ended" or "closed-ended" continuity—that is, a plaintiff must either prove a series of related predicate acts committed over a substantial period of time (known as closed-ended continuity), or show past conduct that by its nature projects into the future with a threat of repetition (known as open-ended continuity). See id. at 241-42; Howard, 208 F.3d at 750. There is no bright line rule for what period of time the pattern of activity must extend to establish closed-ended continuity, though activity spanning only several months is unlikely to satisfy the requirement. Allwaste, Inc. v. Hecht, 65 F.3d 1523, 1528 (9th Cir. 1995) (noting that it would be "misguided" to state as "hard and fast rule" that to establish closed-ended continuity, pattern of activity must extend more than year, but also stating that activity spanning only several months without threatening any future criminal conduct does not meet continuity requirement); Religious Tech. Ctr. v. Wollersheim, 971 F.2d 364, 366-67 (9th Cir. 1992) ("[T]he alleged activity continued for six months at most . . . . We have found no case in which a court has held the [closed-ended continuity] requirement to be satisfied by a pattern of activity lasting less than a year."). Open-ended continuity is shown through "predicate acts that specifically threaten repetition or that become a regular way of doing business." Allwaste, 65 F.3d at 1528; see, e.g., Ikuno v. Yip, 912 F.2d 306, 308 (9th Cir. 1990) (finding open-ended continuity based on two filings of false annual trading reports for phantom commodity trading company and no evidence that defendant would have stopped filing false annual reports if company had continued to do business); Medallion, 833 F.2d at 1364 (finding continuity requirement not satisfied because fraud engaged in posed no threat of future activity).
Racketeering Activity: To constitute racketeering activity, the relevant conduct must consist of at least one of the indictable predicate acts listed in 18 U.S.C. § 1961. Sedima, S.P.R.L. v. Imrex Co., Inc., 473 U.S. 479, 495 (1985) ("‘[R]acketeering activity' consists of no more and no less than commission of a predicate act."). Predicate acts must be proved by a preponderance of the evidence. See Wilcox v. First Interstate Bank, 815 F.2d 522, 531-32 (9th Cir. 1987).
Dude. Stay in code. I’m not even a Bar-certified lawyer and I’d tear you up in court.
"In light of the global bankruptcy of FTX and the provisional liquidation of FTX Digital Markets Ltd, a team from the Financial Crimes Investigation Section is working closely with the Bahamas Securities Commission to investigate whether any criminal conduct has occurred," the police force said in a statement.
The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission is also investigating former FTX CEO Samuel Bankman-Fried
Bahamas announces criminal investigation into FTX bankruptcy MSN
Fungible does not apply..
If I gave you a dollar worth of crypto and you gave me back a dollar bill, I have a dollar bill, you have a crypto dollar. There has been no transferring of money, just an even exchange of the same value. FTX has no more money to give to democrats than it did before. So its not laundering.
Man, I would rip you up in court.
Money is indeed fungible and it does indeed apply — strongly — in RICO cases.
Now I regret that I never pursued law. All I did was take four or five pre-law courses. If I had gone all the way with that line of study, I would have loved to bust people like you down to tears in court.
“Fungible does not apply..”
Uh, it does.
This is absolutely the most idiotic thing I have ever read.
Look up the definition of fungible.
Now what do you think crypto is.
Doubt you’ll be honest about it.
Then you need to read more articles.
I see several here have provided you with many sources.
I think Laz is right. You are being deliberately obtuse.
Again, its an even exchange.
Ukraine gave a dollar in crpyto to FTX, and FTX gave Ukraine back a dollar in fiat.
Does FTX have a new dollar to give to Democrats? No, they still only have a dollar. So its impossible to say Urkraine increased FTX bank account. They just traded.
I only read the first article that was presented as “evidence”
There was no evidence in the article. Just the mention of ?Ukraine exchange currency (not investing)
So on the basis that the whole article was bs, why would I bother reading another?
Again, no one has yet to provide me any details of how the tax dollars went to FTX via Ukraine.
Do as you want with him, after the fair trial.
Yeah. They're just being investigated for being honest in a country where they can't be touched.
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