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BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Tens of Billions of US Dollars Were Transferred to Ukraine and then Using FTX Crypto Currency the Funds Were Laundered Back to Democrats in US
GATEWAY PUNDIT ^ | 11/12/2022 | joe hoft

Posted on 11/12/2022 5:13:27 PM PST by bitt

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To: dforest
There are two links in that thread, both go to unsourced images of text which claim that the company FTX was set up as a money laundering operation for democrats. One of the images shows text listing what are supposed to be ties between people involved with FTX and various organizations and/or people like Obama, the WEF, etc.

Nothing about Ukraine, nothing about any of the allegations made that US aid to Ukraine was invested in FTX.

It is no secret that FTX has imploded, and that its founder was a big Democrat donor who claimed he was going to donate even more money in 2024. That's unlikely, he'll probably be in jail by then.

Do you know of any actual source for the allegation against the government of Ukraine except for a single post supposedly made by a convicted felon notorious for posting crazy ideas?

141 posted on 11/13/2022 8:06:46 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: FreshPrince
Cant people read anymore?

I think they can read, but they have forgotten how to think. Perhaps they would rather spend their time posting comments that reinforce whatever idea is in their head at the moment, regardless of whether or not it has any basis in reality.

The supposed source of the claim Hal Turner of all people. That's a less reliable source than an anonymous caller on the Art Bell show who remembers what his uncle told him about aliens in the back of a truck in Nevada.

142 posted on 11/13/2022 8:10:28 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

I think they can read, but they have forgotten how to think. Perhaps they would rather spend their time posting comments that reinforce whatever idea is in their head at the moment, regardless of whether or not it has any basis in reality.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well said and i agree


143 posted on 11/13/2022 11:03:05 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: MileHi

Here you are claiming things could have changed under Obama. He was there
for eight years with the Globalists, the UN, and NATO in his hip pocket, but
you are convinced things changed, yet the Ukraine was never give
membership even under Biden.

The Ukraine still isn’t a member,and you’re still wrong.


144 posted on 11/13/2022 12:42:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the U S of A, and the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Just stop. You know damn well Ukraine has been and continues to be a hub for corruption for the west.


145 posted on 11/13/2022 12:47:06 PM PST by HollyB
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To: HollyB

“Ukraine has been used”

That part is correct. Putin embedded Russian ‘deep-state’ agents into all levels of Ukrainian government for may, many, crimes from money laundering to sex-trafficking.

Check out:
1- https://www.state.gov/reports/2020-trafficking-in-persons-report/russia/
2- http://www.gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Russia.htm
3- https://www.borgenmagazine.com/war-human-trafficking-in-russia/


146 posted on 11/13/2022 3:54:16 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Oh dear. Behind those big puppy dog eyes, Bankman-Fried had one goal in mind: lining the pockets of his liberal self and his Democrat friends. He stole from FTX customers and sponsors, laundering money to the Democrats via culpable Ukraine. Now Bankman-Fried is trying to escape extradition by escaping to Dubai.


147 posted on 11/14/2022 6:02:30 AM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: NautiNurse; freeandfreezing

“Oh dear. Behind those big puppy dog eyes, Bankman-Fried had one goal in mind: lining the pockets of his liberal self and his Democrat friends. He stole from FTX customers and sponsors”

1- IMO, Bankman-Fried does not have “puppy-dog eyes.” He appears totally untrustworthy & acts delusional. When I first met Chuck Schumer, I felt the same way: TOTAL fraudster.

2- Absolutely. U.S. Gov’t gave Ukraine money. Bankman-Fried NEEDED easy Ukrainian money to financially buttress his criminal ponzi scheme.

3- Ukraine was victimized to believe that profits came from legitimate business activity (i.e.other successful investments) totally remaining unaware that other investors were actually the source of their own investment.

The Ponzi scheme using U.S. money given to Ukraine created the illusion of a sustainable investment business as long as new investors continueed to contribute new funds.

Ukraine like most investors did not demand full repayment however still believed in the Ponzi non-existent assets they were suppose to own.

I believe I would have react the same way Bamkman-Fried Musk did:

ELON MUSK: SAM BANKMAN-FRIED ‘SET OFF MY BS DETECTOR’ WHEN HE APPROCHED ABOUT TWITTER INVESTMENT

After the epic collapse of Sam Bankman-Fried’s entire crypto empire this week, even Elon Musk took a moment from his extremely chaotic week at the helm of Twitter to declare that he never trusted SBF, who stepped down as CEO of FTX on Friday when the company filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

Bankman-Fried reached out to Musk back in March through their intermediaries (in SBF’s case it was William MacAskill from FTX’s Future Fund philanthropic arm, which shut down on Friday) to express his interest in investing in Musk’s bid for Twitter. That news came out in September when Musk’s text messages leaked through a legal proceeding.

Musk’s banker on the Twitter deal, Michael Grimes from Morgan Stanley, told Musk at the time that SBF was offering “at least $3 billion” to help Musk buy Twitter, and wanted to talk about the potential for “social media blockchain integration.”

Musk asked Grimes, “Does Sam actually have $3B liquid?”

Daniel Roberts
Fri, November 11, 2022

After the epic collapse of Sam Bankman-Fried’s entire crypto empire this week, even Elon Musk took a moment from his extremely chaotic week at the helm of Twitter to declare that he never trusted SBF, who stepped down as CEO of FTX on Friday when the company filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

Bankman-Fried reached out to Musk back in March through their intermediaries (in SBF’s case it was William MacAskill from FTX’s Future Fund philanthropic arm, which shut down on Friday) to express his interest in investing in Musk’s bid for Twitter. That news came out in September when Musk’s text messages leaked through a legal proceeding.

Musk’s banker on the Twitter deal, Michael Grimes from Morgan Stanley, told Musk at the time that SBF was offering “at least $3 billion” to help Musk buy Twitter, and wanted to talk about the potential for “social media blockchain integration.”

Musk asked Grimes, “DOES Sam actually have $3B liquid?”

On Friday night, as Crypto Twitter continued to have a field day re-circulating recent history involving SBF, a popular account that shares internal tech industry emails tweeted out the exchange again. Musk replied, “Accurate. He set off my bs detector, which is why I did not think he had $3B.”

On Friday night, as Crypto Twitter continued to have a field day re-circulating recent history involving SBF, a popular account that shares internal tech industry emails tweeted out the exchange again. Musk replied, “Accurate. He set off my bs detector, which is why I did not think he had $3B.”

Grimes had talked up Bankman-Fried’s offer to Musk, texting, “He’s into you... I do believe you will like him. Ultra genius and doer builder like your formula. Built FTX from scratch after MIT physics.”

Bankman-Fried was interested in helping to engineer a blockchain version of Twitter. Musk, despite being a crypto advocate, shot that proposal down, telling Grimes matter-of-factly, “Blockchain twitter isn’t possible.” He added he would only meet with SBF “so long as I don’t have to have a laborious blockchain debate.”

Grimes told Musk that even absent the blockchain component, Bankman-Fried wanted to invest. Musk passed.

Of course, in light of the financial malfeasance behind the scenes at FTX—which was using customer funds and its own FTT token to prop up SBF’s hedge fund Alameda—everyone is eager to distance themselves from the stench.

On October 27, Musk took control of Twitter.

The next two weeks saw FTX go up in flames after Changpeng “CZ” Zhao, CEO of rival exchange Binance, announced his company would liquidate its holdings of FTX’s FTT token. That tanked the price of FTT and prompted $5 billion of customer withdrawals from FTX, which didn’t have the liquidity to cover.

Musk, even through the public mess of Twitter’s fake account crisis this week, certainly had a better week than Bankman-Fried.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-sam-bankman-fried-043720906.html


148 posted on 11/14/2022 9:53:30 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Sam Bankman-Fried reaches out to Elon Musk April 25, 2022 https://twitter.com/TechEmails/status/1591107918816247808/photo/4
149 posted on 11/14/2022 10:11:38 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: freeandfreezing

“There are two links in that thread, both go to unsourced images of text which claim that the company FTX was set up as a money laundering operation for democrats.”

Thank you. I totally appreciate your analysis & comment.


150 posted on 11/14/2022 10:18:23 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

1- Absolutely. U.S. Gov’t gave Ukraine money. Ukraine invested to earn interest until money needed.

2- Bankman-Fried NEEDED easy Ukrainian money to financially buttress his criminal ponzi scheme.

3- Ukraine was victimized believing that their profits came from legitimate business activity (i.e.other successful investments) totally remaining unaware that other investors were actually the source of their own investment.

4- The SAM BANKMAN-FRIED Ponzi scheme using U.S. money given to Ukraine created an illusion of a sustainable investment business [as long as new investors continued to contribute new funds.]

5- Ukraine like most investors did not demand full repayment however did still believe in their Ponzi non-existent assets supposedly owned.

I would like to believe I would have reacted the same way Bankman-Fried Musk did:

ELON MUSK: SAM BANKMAN-FRIED ‘SET OFF MY BS DETECTOR’ WHEN HE APPROACHED ABOUT TWITTER INVESTMENT


151 posted on 11/14/2022 10:27:58 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's interventio n to stop Putin's invasion, )
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