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Vanity: Thank you for your service, but....
11/9/2022 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 11/09/2022 4:56:41 AM PST by Lazamataz

Donald Trump is my favorite President, even more so than Ronald Reagan.

However, I think I’m moving on from him.

I like him in the role of a clarion-calling standard bearer, and his presidency was the best I have ever seen.

I don’t like him in terms of his failure to be a team player. I’m not even sure I like him as a kingmaker. Calling out numbers to make him look good, in a severely-disappointing election shows me he doesn’t care about the boots on the ground, but only how he looks.

Reagan faced the same Establishment hate and Media mocking, but he had a great way of playful rebuttal, with a twinkle in his eye and a little smile. America loved that. All the attacks mustered against him, failed, because he was able to gently turn it around on his attacker with a witty quip or a well thought out fact.

Reagan was also the author of the phrase, the 11th commandment, which was “Thou shall not attack a fellow Republican.”

Trump, on the other hand, has a serious ego problem. He cannot resist getting into a public verbal fight with anyone who criticizes him. While this was fresh and new in 2016, and propelled him into the presidency, it doesn’t work in 2022.

Also, the way Trump fights back is not nearly as good as Reagan’s style. Trump hasn’t got the charm of Reagan, and it’s beginning to hurt our side.

It is for these reasons that I must move on from Donald Trump. Sir, thank you for your incredibly wonderful service in 2016 through 2020. You made those years prosperous and sane. But it is time to move on.

I’m likely to get a ton of flak for this post. That’s okay, I can take it.


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To: Lazamataz

I agree now.

He is his own worst enemy.

A good candidate will pull his side together, but not cause the other side to come out in force just to defeat them. He is to the left what Hillary is to us, and we need someone who the left isn’t driven to go to the polls just to defeat rather than to support their own candidate.

I’m not saying if he is on the ballot I won’t support him 100%, but now I think that DeSantis can accomplish more for a possible 8 years than Trump can accomplish in 4.


561 posted on 11/10/2022 5:25:42 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Lazamataz
You make some decent points.

I also think you miss big in some ways.

Trump has some issues, but the positives he brings for this time is worth circling the wagons for, not giving up on him. The idea that he failed because of his personality glitches is specious.

The failure of America is systemic, by design, and he is one of the few that sees it, and fights it. I seriously doubt anyone else, including De Santis (love what he's done) can deal with what we are facing. We still need the bull in the China shop to finish his work.

I loved Reagan. Great president. But the enemy had not taken over all the levers of power as they have now done. I believe he would be destroyed by the machine of evil we all oppose. It's a different time, with a more entrenched left, a more powerful left. They are strangling us like a boa constrictor, and so many on this thread blame Trump.

Your takes are reasonable, but you are missing a lot with them. Best of luck. Hopefully you, and the others who chimed in on this thread can rethink dismissing Trump, rather use his clarity of purpose and vision, forgiving his obvious glitches.

562 posted on 11/10/2022 6:30:50 AM PST by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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To: PalominoGuy; Lazamataz
Reagan had a team from CA that had his back and Trump got the DS Rinos that fought him at every turn including his managed lawyers.

It bothers me, though, that Donald Trump .. having managed personnel and organizations so well for so long in the business world .. is so abysmally bad in selecting and managing a loyal and competent political team.

563 posted on 11/10/2022 7:25:04 AM PST by BlueLancer (Orchides Forum Trahite - Cordes Et Mentes Veniant)
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To: Blueflag

agree


564 posted on 11/10/2022 7:27:09 AM PST by TECTopcat
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To: Lazamataz
Well, since this thread is still going strong....

I don't love his impertinant and impulsive tongue.

That's been the pivot point since the 2016 primary.  It has turned off a meaningful segment of the Republican base, along with triggering the Democrat wine moms in the suburbs and motivating them to vote in droves, which is not great, but on the other hand the negative affect pulls in a significant number of disafected base voters as well.  The usual party calculation would be to ask "does he help the R's more than he hurts?"  But I would submit that is not the correct question.  It's more along the lines of "is there ANY other person who is able and willing to take on the uniparty, so that there's a meaningful difference between the R's and the D's?

Folks are making a big deal this morning of a handful of Trump endorsed candidates getting Democrat help in the primaries, and then losing in the general. So, from the GOPe perspective, that could be pitched as a loss for the Trump wing of the party.  I respectfully disagree.  There is simply no point any longer in advancing establishment hacks like Paul Ryan, Dan Crenshaw, and Kevin McCarthy, and Trump is the only bona fide opposition on the horizon.  Could DeSantis demonstrate that he's a viable option?  Sure, he's been great so far, but he's suspiciosly heavy in the credentials of the enemy class, we have no idea of his foreign policy (we already have plenty of war mongering globalists in power), and even better, as long as Trump remains as a lighting rod, he'll be insulated from the worst of the character assasination and lies that will enevitably attach to whoever is the GOP heir apparant. 

Does Trump have hoof in mouth disease?  Of course, he always has, nothing's changed.  Is he still the best person to publicly advocate for the America First populism that his campaign and administration boosted?  Yes, at this point I think he is.

565 posted on 11/10/2022 8:39:04 AM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: nutmeg

Mar a Lago


566 posted on 11/10/2022 9:12:38 AM PST by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: Lazamataz

LOL. Then what would be point of being hot looking if one can’t execute the purpose?


567 posted on 11/10/2022 9:37:56 AM PST by Toespi
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To: nutmeg

There will be lots of photos on Page Six of the NY Post, and of course in the Daily Mail.

Tiffany is freaking out about the hurricane. 500 guests were due to fly in today. Many are already there.

All events for today had to be cancelled, and everyone is indoors at Mar a Lago.

Tiffany’s Mom is there to help with last minute things.

I do hope the sun will shine on Tiffany’s wedding on Saturday!


568 posted on 11/10/2022 9:41:15 AM PST by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: Lakeshark

Good and valid observations.


569 posted on 11/10/2022 9:45:17 AM PST by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: absalom01

A reasoned, balanced post.


570 posted on 11/10/2022 1:15:17 PM PST by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: Col Freeper

Love it!

An oldie but goodie!

Is there still a Smoky Backroom Forum?


571 posted on 11/10/2022 1:17:49 PM PST by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: Bikkuri

Thank you, Bikkuri, for your excellent work as an outstanding FR Historian and Librarian.


572 posted on 11/10/2022 1:24:28 PM PST by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: miserare

My pleasure ;)
I think we all need to keep FR alive (can get boring without all of the fun ;^) )


573 posted on 11/10/2022 2:51:32 PM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Bikkuri

Definitely!


574 posted on 11/10/2022 2:53:12 PM PST by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: Lazamataz

Sure, there was disappointment on Tuesday, (hopefully we won’t get any more bad news and AZ , GA and NV trend our way). But, I just want to say one thing....

-We need to jettison McConnell and McCarthy before we even think about tossing Trump.-


575 posted on 11/10/2022 3:20:05 PM PST by Reddy (BO stinks)
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To: Reddy

O I am totally on board with that.


576 posted on 11/10/2022 3:20:39 PM PST by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: dforest

Northern Sicily.


577 posted on 11/10/2022 3:34:53 PM PST by Rocco DiPippo (I)
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To: miserare; Bikkuri
There's also a Butt Hurt Form for SJW's

Progressive-Butt-Hurt

Smokey Backroom still shows in the FR Forum list.

578 posted on 11/10/2022 3:58:18 PM PST by Col Freeper (Praise and Trust in the LORD in All Things at All Times.)
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To: central_va; Impy; LS; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy

I’m staying UNCOMMITTED for ‘24 primary season

Loyalty to a statesman doesn’t mean I pledge to support them for any race, any day.

Which means I reserve the right to go full-blown TRUMPER in New Hampshire in Jan ‘24 ... 14 months away.

I’m also working under the assumption it will be a 3-way race in Nov ‘24 ...

Y’all might be voting for the Donald.


579 posted on 11/10/2022 4:45:38 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I owe, I owe, it's off to work I go ...)
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To: tlozo

Trump would probably win the primary, but will Trump win the general election in 2024? Will he win PA, Arizona or Nevada?
. . .

No, because the butt hurt never trumpets won’t vote for him.


580 posted on 11/10/2022 4:53:12 PM PST by dragonblustar (Romans 12:12)
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