Posted on 11/05/2022 2:29:50 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
Ah, yes a great movie
After Putin's gone, Kadyrov may simply declare independence. Russia may be content to let Chechnya go at that point. Russia in the '90s still had the Soviet Army and their equipment at that point even though they were broke.
Now? All of that is gone. Chechnya used to produce some oil. If they became independent that would encourage them to drill oil.
Do you really believe that Putin would have allowed any other result? Regardless of whether the elections were legitimate or not, they were about political status and not ethnic identity. The residents are ethnically Ukrainian not Russian.
As for the DKR republic, it never actually controlled the territory it claimed and disappeared after only a month. It was nothing more than an historical footnote.
The residents are ethnically Ukrainian not Russian.==
Actually they are partly proukranian and prorussian. Ethnically they are called novorossiayn (new russians). It is a mix of cause but their mother tongue is Russian. Ukrainian was imposed there by soviet commies and never really accepted by people.
They populate whole Novorossiya from Mariupol to Odessa.
After Putin’s gone, Kadyrov may simply declare independence. ==
Kadyrov will not do this. He is following the steps of his father. And again economically it is unsound and will again start war.
BTW even Ichkeria of 90th never fought for independence but for Islamic Caliphate so much bigger state which must cover a whole northern Caucasus from sea to sea. They completely understood that the independence of this small area like Chechnya is completely foolish.
Your assertion is not even close to the truth.
Here’s an ethnic map of Ukraine from the 1930s:
https://i.redd.it/wz0r4qmk4yy31
And another one from 2001:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hL85-21M0a4/VyigQss_JpI/AAAAAAAACTc/iZwo8Q8ZCIYyG8j-kdr8Hul2BTNPP0M8wCLcB/s1600/781f6031609e52f92003a7098d5fd73a.jpg
Notably, post-Soviet Russia pledged to respect Ukraine's independence and territorial integrity in return for Ukraine giving up the nuclear weapons that it had as a result of the breakup of the Soviet Union. And the US and Britain guaranteed Ukraine's independence and territorial integrity on that basis.
Moreover, Putin's Russia claims a sphere of influence based on that of the Soviet Union. If that is legitimate, then how can Russia assert that Ukraine should lose territory based on reversing decisions by the Soviet Union?
And so, Putin, thug that he is, simply claims that Russia is not at war but is instead engaging in a "special military operation" aimed at a Ukrainian regime led by Nazis and drug addicts. No one with a lick of sense believes such accusations. It is simply a matter of Russian power politics, a profound lack of respect for Ukrainians, and Russian territorial expansion.
The key point that is gradually dawning on most Russians is that Putin has set Russia on a path of national suicide by a war that it can neither win nor afford to wage. Even worse, Russia is not only headed for a loss in Putin's stupid war, but the nature and existence of Putin's corrupt oligarchic regime is contrary to Russia's progress and orderly development based on democracy, the rule of law, and respect for her citizens. There is simply no other sound basis for a modern nation.
And, as the article points out, the Ukraine war has aggravated Russia's demographic decline. Russia is not fully disclosing her casualties, nor are the problems with the mass mobilization being remedied. Russia is losing, and feeding untrained and unequipped men into the kill zone will not avert the impending Russian military collapse.
In 1920th Soviets started a policy of ukrainization. For example soviet actress Ludmila Gurchenko wrote in her memoirs that her father family name was ukranized from original Gurchekov.
SO soviet ethnic maps are distorted. They simply included to Ukrainians many people of Novorossya.
Notably, post-Soviet Russia pledged to respect Ukraine’s independence and territorial integrity in return for Ukraine giving up the nuclear weapons that it had as a result of the breakup of the Soviet Union. ==
This pledge came with conditions. Ukraine will never join to the hostile union against Russia interest and will not ever threaten the security of Russia. Ukraine violated those conditions.
The key point that is gradually dawning on most Russians is that Putin has set Russia on a path of national suicide by a war that it can neither win nor afford to wage. ==
Come on “most of Russians”))). Few deserters and foreign assets in Russia are not “a most”. Actually the approval rate of Putin went up to 80% after he ordered this operation.
“National suicide” sounds too pompous. Russia never stops fight some war all the time of her history. And she fights a major war each 30 years. It just next one.
There is simply no other sound basis for a modern nation. ==
Ask China. The country which is ruled by Communist’s Party got to a first economy on this planet. And the democracy seems nothing to do with her economical development.
Second example. During 90th Russia had the best relationship with US but went to complete economy broke and disastered.
Third example. Compare India and Chine. Which one is better developed? And which one is more democratic?
Seems like the economical development goes against a democracy reforms.
And, as the article points out, the Ukraine war has aggravated Russia’s demographic decline. Russia is not fully disclosing her casualties, nor are the problems with the mass mobilization being remedied. Russia is losing, and feeding untrained and unequipped men into the kill zone will not avert the impending Russian military collapse.==
What a decline on Russia if she just joined to her about 6 mlns of new people? Rather the decline is on Ukrainian side. They were 52 mlns in 1991 but now barely half of it. They lost half of population during 30 years of democracy. That is a result))..
You sleep some virtual reality man)).. Wake up))..
Nice try, but here’s an ethnic map published in 1914:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0f/09/3d/0f093d9ed319ed61b678a225cb86a69e.jpg
If that isn’t early enough for you, how about this one published in 1897:
https://euromaidanpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/1879_nation_europe1.jpg
They all tell the same story. Any claim that “Novorossiya” was populated by Russians or your invented “Novorossiyans” and only relatively recently Ukrainiaized by the Soviets is a myth.
Btw, not even Putin recognizes an ethnic group called “Novorossiyans”.
Those maps are not Russian. German and French. WHo knows why they drew it this way. I see many mistakes.
For example but my one granddad lived and died in Ekaterinodar (Krasnodar) region. But he never was Ukrainian. He was a Kuban Cossack.
Also French map don’t know about Ukrainian ethnicity at all. Will you continue to support this map?
(1) Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons;
(2) The signatories were to respect the independence and sovereignty of the other signatories in their existing borders;
(3) Refrain from the threat or the use of force against the other signatories;
(4) Refrain from economic coercion against each other;
(5) Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to a signatory if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used."
(6) Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against a signatory;
(7) Consult with one another if questions arise regarding these commitments.
The violation of these agreements was by Russia, which invaded Ukraine without valid reason. Notably, the Budapest Memoranda do not forbid NATO or US assistance to Ukraine or their joining NATO. Russia may not like it, but that is not in the Budapest Memoranda.
As for Putin's popularity, it has tanked due to the failure of his invasion of Ukraine, the mounting casualties, and the chaotic mass mobilization. And, by the way, when hundreds of thousands of young men flee a country, it is because they do not want to get sucked in as the country sinks.
Russia may like to go to war but does not have a good record at it. The defeat of the Tsarist forces by Japan in 1905 nearly led to a revolution, while their defeat by Imperial Germany in 1917 did lead to the revolution that installed the Soviets in power. Tiny Finland very nearly beat the Soviet Union in 1939 and ended up fighting them to a near draw in 1940.
Stalin's purges and incompetence led to Russia being surprised by Nazi Germany in June of 1941 and nearly defeated, with the Soviet Union's eventual victory against the Nazis being heavily dependent on US and British logistic and financial support. And the Soviet Union was defeated in Afghanistan and in the Cold War, which led to its breakup. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is headed for defeat as well, with dismal consequences for Putin and Russia.
The most reliable data shows that the Chinese economy is stalling and in deep trouble without becoming a fully developed nation, with India, Japan, Korea, and other democracies advancing. Many dozens of books and papers have demonstrated beyond question that democracy is an essential condition for becoming a modern prosperous society.
Of course, if a country does democracy badly, it will not prosper in the long term even if (like Russia) it is rich in natural resources.
bttt
If Ukraine defeats Russia, she is likely to experience a boom due to rebuilding, foreign aid, and the end of the threat from Russia.==
“If”? Are you serious? How they do such trick? How they can defeat the thermonuclear country which will not hesitate to use her nukes when she will be existentially threatened.
It is absolutely impossible for Ukraine to win this thing. The military potentials are very unequal.
The most reliable data shows that the Chinese economy is stalling and in deep trouble without becoming a fully developed nation, with India, Japan, Korea, and other democracies advancing. ===
“Reliable data”)). I hear this hoax abbot Chinese economy stalling unstopping for 20 years.
Many dozens of books and papers have demonstrated beyond question that democracy is an essential condition for becoming a modern prosperous society.===
Man what your dozens of books and papers worth if reality shows otherwise. CHina is a first economy of this planet. It is a stubborn fact. And it took only 30 years of development for China. Not 100 or 200 as for US.
Check it out)) https://i.imgur.com/kjKgG7W.png
That is effectively how the “reds” in russia were created.
Russian soldiers are deathly afraid of the Woke army, that is just gay fear mongering on their part.
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