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Russia's 'catastrophic' missing men problem
Yahoo ^ | 5 Nov 2022 | Peter Weber

Posted on 11/05/2022 2:29:50 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

"Where have all the flowers gone?" asks the famous 1960s antiwar song. In Moscow today, The New York Times reports, the question is: Where have all the men gone?

The answer to both questions is, in part, the same: To the graveyards of soldiers. But a lot of the missing men of Moscow have also fled Russian President Vladimir Putin's draft for his war in Ukraine. In fact, demographers say Russia may not recover for generations, if ever.

"Putin spent years racing against Russia's demographic clock, only to order an invasion of Ukraine that's consigning his country's population to a historic decline," Bloomberg News reports. Here's a look at what demographer Alexei Raksha calls Russia's "perfect storm" of demographic decline:

Moscow demographer Igor Efremov tells Bloomberg. It would likely bring birth rates down to 1 million between mid-2023 and mid-2024, dropping the fertility rate to 1.2 children per woman, a low mark Russia hit only once, in the 1999-2000 period. "A fertility rate of 2.1 is needed to keep populations stable without migration,"

"All of the most reasonable guys are gone," said Tatiana, a 36-year-old Muscovite. "The dating pool has shrunk by at least 50 percent."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: 100000ukiedead; 1wherehaveall; 2theukiesgone; demographics; peterweber; ukrainesmissingmen
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General "Buck" Turgidson: Doctor, you mentioned the ratio of ten women to each man. Now, wouldn't that necessitate the abandonment of the so-called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?

Dr. Strangelove: Regrettably, yes. But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of the human race. I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious... service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature.

Ambassador de Sadesky: I must confess, you have an astonishingly good idea there, Doctor.

1 posted on 11/05/2022 2:29:50 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

According to internet ads,all the available Russian woman are gorgeous... until they become babushkas.


2 posted on 11/05/2022 2:37:39 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Those deserters are not considered men in Russia. They are cowards. It is good if they won’t have a families and chidden in Russia. Because they will teach them same way a deserters.


3 posted on 11/05/2022 2:43:31 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: DUMBGRUNT

When the The New York Times is concerned about “missing men” it’s because they are worried about where they will get their daily sodomy quota.

The New York Times has more homosexuals than the Vatican. /spit


4 posted on 11/05/2022 2:45:43 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

All propaganda, all the time.

It’s having the opposite effect from the one you think, so keep it up!


5 posted on 11/05/2022 2:49:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( We need to “build back better” on the bones and ashes of those forcing us to “Build Back Better.")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.”

STERLING HAYDEN - Brig. Gen. Jack D. Ripper


6 posted on 11/05/2022 2:49:57 PM PDT by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: Blueflag

Agreed. Same goes for east asian women like koreans. Beautiful when young but when they become ahjumas.....


7 posted on 11/05/2022 2:51:01 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Update on Russian military operations in and around Ukraine for November 5, 2022

- US assistance to Ukraine increasingly depends on "refurbishing" antiquated weapons kept in storage as current inventories of weapons run low;
- Russian tanks continue to roll out of factories while those in storage are also being upgraded and deployed;
- British state media admits Ukraine faces difficulties in taking Kherson city;
- Russian forces continue preparing for protracted combat while Ukraine races against the clock in terms of energy, economics, and material support for combat operations

8 posted on 11/05/2022 2:59:36 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Russian males born in 1923 were killed off in huge numbers in WWII. Very few from that generation survived ... this war in the Ukraine will have some impact on the general population numbers but nothing close to WWII that exceeded 20 million.


9 posted on 11/05/2022 3:00:00 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: nickfrost1

From the article, complete BS: “But a lot of the missing men of Moscow have also fled Russian President Vladimir Putin’s draft for his war in Ukraine.”
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Lie, the 300,000 ramp up by Vlad affected only prior servicemen, not a general call up or mobilization which the Duma must vote on- to this date they have not authorized mobilization.

In fact, in addition to the prior servicemen call up, an ADDITIONAL 70,000 young patriotic Ivans “fled” to the recruiting stations…a fact the corrupted western MSM omitted. Much like what happened during the US 9/11 event,our population witnessed many young patriotic men volunteering for service.

The western MSM is getting nauseating. More nauseating is how many are still drinking the western MSM whiskey. Their “ hangover” will be historic.


10 posted on 11/05/2022 3:03:45 PM PDT by delta7
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To: nickfrost1

So if Biden wants to send you to ukraine, or to fight in a desert or 3rd world area for some corporate interest, you’re just gonna be cannon fodder, no problem.

Got it.

This is not fighting for Petrograd. Its one thing to defend your country. Its another thing to be used as a pawn for corporate interests or political leaders’ egos.


11 posted on 11/05/2022 3:06:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: joma89

—”Same goes for east asian women like koreans. Beautiful when young but when they become ahjumas.....”

IMO that’s the ones that work.
The pampered seem to hold up very well.

Probably true for most, the salarymen that bring home the beacon... Notice it is tour boats full of old ladies that visit Italy.


12 posted on 11/05/2022 3:20:34 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: seowulf

Was he wrong?
OK, he overreacted but his heart was in the right place.


13 posted on 11/05/2022 3:22:08 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: joma89; Blueflag

Looking at the shortage of men in Russia vs shortage of women in China, something tells me you can get a better deal on Russian women. LOL


14 posted on 11/05/2022 3:22:26 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: seowulf

A great movie. I liked Col. Bat Guano.


15 posted on 11/05/2022 3:27:45 PM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Amazing how all these Russians die but never hear about any Ukrainians dying.
16 posted on 11/05/2022 3:30:32 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Makes sense. The Wagner Military Contractors will have to pick up the slack.😂
17 posted on 11/05/2022 3:31:09 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! )
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To: BluH2o

—”Russian males born in 1923 were killed off in huge numbers in WWII. Very few from that generation survived ... “

Agreed, but it is the fertility RATE, over time, not the totals that does the damage.

Going into WWII the Russian fertility rate was well over 6 and only went down, today less than 2.

https://www.statista.com/graphic/1/1033851/fertility-rate-russia-1840-2020.jpg


18 posted on 11/05/2022 3:33:24 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: nickfrost1

Sure, what men but cowards would seek to avoid getting drafted into a war of aggression by the thug who runs your country and sent into combat without proper clothing, equipment, weapons, and food.


19 posted on 11/05/2022 3:35:37 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: DUMBGRUNT

If its 50% less in the dating pool in urban Moscow which was sparred the worst of the draft, then one can only imagine what its like in Central Russia and the Far East where the preponderance of the conscripts came from. There must be towns and vilages nearly devoid of any men of dating age and over.


20 posted on 11/05/2022 3:36:20 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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