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US nuclear forces chief says Ukraine ‘just the warmup’ for larger crisis
UK Independent ^ | November 4, 2022 | Andrew Feinberg

Posted on 11/05/2022 4:40:10 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: C19fan
If one is going to wait for the end rather have Ava Gardner at my side

Your mind is is the right place!

61 posted on 11/05/2022 8:59:56 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! The Gestapo closes ranks.)
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To: Obadiah

I worked with a man who was in the 35th Infantry Regiment. It was just a general attitude that the 8th Army elements deploying to Korea would be back in about three months. The NKPA was considered to be just some rabble of ‘’slopes’. The fighting capacity of the NORKs shocked the hell out of the US Army at every level Not so, in Europe in 1914. All belligerent forces expected a maximum effort operation of larger size and scope than had ever been seen before. Even at that the French underestimated just how powerful the German Army had become in the last ten years and how they really had integrated reserve divisions with the first echelon regular forces as well as how devastating the German heavy artillery was due to improvements in coordinating fires and accuracy in target ranging. While the crushing numerical and material superiority of the Russian armies versus the Austro-Hungarian and later Ottoman forces was a big surprise to the Central Powers.

Moreover, and most significant, the economic consequences of mass mobilization and the disruption of the banking and finance system was considered by the financiers and governments to force a n end to combat in 6-9 months. However, the Swiss and the bankers of Europe proved to be much more competent than imagined and Zurich became the center for belligerent power’s financiers to swap and liquidate massive quantities of securities from enemy states being held in portfolios. While markets crashed across Europe they continued to be able to operate contrary to pre war assumptions. At the same time Britain, France and Germany proved to have treasury officials and bankers who were much more opportunistic and pragmatic about floating huge new loans and bond issues so the financial structure needed to finance a long term war sprung into life. So in 1914 the resilience and willingness to ignore pre war banking conventions made a long war possible. In Korea it was just arrogance and lack of information on enemy capabilities that jolted the Americans. Five months later in November the same thing happened when EUSAK and Pacific Command grossly underestimated the size and tactical competence of CCF forces. This go round is impossible to predict if it happens as it is possible worse case that a real global conflict could come about through a series of escalations and three different fronts in east Europe, the Persian Gulf-Middle East and Asia Pacific could emerge. The really big question is whether strategic exchanges can be avoided.


62 posted on 11/05/2022 10:24:15 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat
This go round is impossible to predict if it happens as it is possible worse case that a real global conflict could come about through a series of escalations and three different fronts in east Europe, the Persian Gulf-Middle East and Asia Pacific could emerge.

That is my fear.

The really big question is whether strategic exchanges can be avoided?

And that is the big question. I am not trying to be provocative, but I do think this is coming.

63 posted on 11/05/2022 10:40:19 AM PDT by Obadiah (Calamity Joe Biden)
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To: Obadiah

That would argue for basic rationality on the part of the players. Rhetoric emanating from Washington, Moscow and Peking is disturbing.


64 posted on 11/05/2022 10:48:58 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: Alas Babylon!

Yikes 😳


65 posted on 11/05/2022 11:43:21 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: skeeter

Yep


66 posted on 11/05/2022 11:43:35 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: delta7

“Blah, blah, blah, fact is the US keeps perpetuating the nuke threat, out of fear, to spread fear.”

Trump sure fell for it since he was ready to up the nuclear anty against Putin because he was so sick of Putin constantly threatening nukes.

By the way, did you only start using this account in 2020? Why is that?


67 posted on 11/05/2022 11:46:22 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: robowombat

Yes


68 posted on 11/05/2022 11:48:22 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: C19fan

“ Is there one sane person with some power in DC to stop this march to major war?”

No


69 posted on 11/05/2022 11:54:52 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

“ Either way, Biden and his puppet masters are finished.”

It’s now only about how many of us they take with them when they go.


70 posted on 11/05/2022 12:00:09 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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To: C19fan

If it’s the song they ran into the ground that was Berlin


71 posted on 11/05/2022 12:11:09 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Apparently not


72 posted on 11/05/2022 12:11:32 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: ansel12

If you dig deeper, you will see I have been a long time member, since about 2002-04? Having been working overseas in those years, ( yes, Russia, Ukraine, EU, ME, SA) I found FR interesting to read.

When the C flu hoax and shutting down of churches, businesses, economy, etc…began, I found it time to start posting, interjecting facts before the US was flushed down the toilet.

Not being an “ armchair” as so many here, my “boots on the ground” observations are posted in hopes the younger, armchair Western MSM junkies would see things as they are- not what they want to be.

The US population is being hoodwinked and don’t even realize it. Go live in Russia, EU, even Ukie land as I have, then get back with us.

You will find an entirely different world than what Western MSM feeds you.


73 posted on 11/05/2022 12:24:12 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Yes, you started your account in 2002 and didn’t use it, but suddenly in 2020 you exploded with great passion, religious fervor, conspiracies, a lot of anti-Americanism, and a passion for Putin and Russian military goals, etc. it seems pretty weird.

What kind of military unit were you in that had you working in Russia and Ukraine?


74 posted on 11/05/2022 12:39:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

When his family all leave for a vacation to South America it’s pucker time. Always liked you Freeper Name.


75 posted on 11/05/2022 12:46:50 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Censored!)
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To: ansel12

Private sector. SA DOS.


76 posted on 11/05/2022 1:22:11 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Did being unwilling to let your pro-Russia/anti-NATO views out have something to do with your not using your FR account for 18 years?


77 posted on 11/05/2022 1:41:54 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Quite the contrary, being pro-US and believing freedom is a gift, my travels and employment with certain .gov agencies took some time to realize the US ( and NATO) had started to lose their way, deceiving the public for their own agenda.

When they gained control of western MSM, it was all to clear they have no interest in the welfare of US citizens.None of the “ news” was jiving ( much omitted or spun) with what I witnessed. The troublesome realization is just how easily the public is being mislead.

My advice to you, put down the western MSM whiskey bottle, all the war cheerleaders are in for one heck of a hangover.


78 posted on 11/05/2022 2:38:20 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

You seem to be saying yes to my question, “Did being unwilling to let your pro-Russia/anti-NATO views out have something to do with your not using your FR account for 18 years?”, as you cheer for war.

Supporting the Russian invasion is supporting war, you must have been easy to turn.


79 posted on 11/05/2022 2:48:50 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Supporting the Russian invasion is supporting war
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Supporting Biden’s Ukie war and Zelensky is supporting war. I will say again, Both Zelensky and Vlad are corrupted, Evil destroying Evil. Ditto with senile Joe.
The only difference is Vlad keeps checkmating the West at every turn.

Didn’t anyone learn anything from Trump about the corrupted western news? Trump is the only one calling for Peace, all others war,war, war.

“ Trump Calls For Immediate Negotiations Between Russia & Ukraine To Prevent World War III
Former US President Donald Trump has warned that postponing negotiations between Russia and Ukraine amid war can star World War 3 and lead to Nuclear war...”

https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/trump-calls-for-immediate-negotiations-between-russia-and-ukraine-to-prevent-world-war-iii-articleshow.html


80 posted on 11/05/2022 5:21:07 PM PDT by delta7
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