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[ Donetsk Front ] Russia launched major assault on Vuhledar and Pavlivka
Defense Politics Asia ^ | October 30, 2022 | Defense Politics Asia

Posted on 10/30/2022 4:51:27 AM PDT by Cathi

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To: Cathi

Wait. It’s almost like you’re saying there are two sides to this war?????

From reading the Zeeper articles, I thought only Russians dies, only Russians lost equipment, only Russians lost territory?!


21 posted on 10/30/2022 6:38:59 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: jpsb

A poxon both their houses.


22 posted on 10/30/2022 6:42:36 AM PDT by sauropod (The New York Times' 1619 Project's Nikole Hannah-Jones: "all journalism is activism.")
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To: BobL

“Oh no, time to figure some HIMARS at the advancing Russian troops!!!!

Just kidding, Ukraine already spent our inventory of HIMARS missiles.”

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Yup, they are running out of HIMAR missiles. But, more interestingly it appears they are almost out of HIMAR launchers.

Today from Russia MOD: During a counter-battery fight in the area of ​​Shevchenkovka, Kherson region, an artillery battery of American M777 howitzers was hit. In the area of ​​the city of Zaporozhye, two launchers of the American HIMARS multiple launch rocket system were hit

Yesterday from Russia MOD: In the area of ​​the village of Staroverovka, Kharkiv region, two installations of the American HIMARS multiple launch rocket system, four tanks, 15 vehicles, a missile and artillery depot and 43 Ukrainian militants were destroyed by a missile attack.


23 posted on 10/30/2022 6:52:55 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi

‘Captured Ukrainian Squad Leader on Russian artillery & Kiev’s failed Kherson offensive’
https://rumble.com/v1qlqqf-captured-ukrainian-squad-leader-on-russian-artillery-and-kievs-failed-khers.html


24 posted on 10/30/2022 6:54:48 AM PDT by cranked
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To: sauropod; Cathi

Sorry I meant that post to go to cathi. I’m just pissed about all the money/equipment Slowjoe is sending over there for his useless unnecessary war.


25 posted on 10/30/2022 7:04:13 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Cathi

They have no more 155 rounds to send Ukraine....to boot.


26 posted on 10/30/2022 7:11:19 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Cathi

I thought all the Russkie soldiers were dead and all units destroyed?

Sort of like when Japan said that Halsey’s fleet had been destroyed and he cabled Pearl Harbor saying “Ships reported sunk and damaged are retreating toward the enemy at full speed.”


27 posted on 10/30/2022 7:13:46 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: Cathi

Yep, but being an American (not that the Neocons here think that), it bums me out to not only lose our best weapons in that black hole, but to also lose their effectiveness if needed in the future - after spending countless billions to develop them. Russia has been very smart - they keep their best hardware well behind the lines - we don’t do that. Israel, even despite our huge pressure on them, are also smart and holding back their hardware.

So, what’s next? Russia, and likely China and Iran (and others) now know how to neutralize our best weapons (at least for this type of combat). Are we going to develop and build a new generation of weapons, so as to have something that will work in a future conflict? I doubt it. More likely we’ll backfill and sit smug, thinking that since our weapons are American, they’ll be just as effective in the future as they were before Ukraine.


28 posted on 10/30/2022 7:14:03 AM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 37 degrees)
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To: Cathi

thanks,DPA is good


29 posted on 10/30/2022 8:38:11 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: BobL

Bob, the United States is in deep trouble. The process of the “end of the empire” has been going on for a long time now and there is no way to hang on to the world hegemony we have had for the last 30 years. Americans will have to learn to accept a multipolar world that is no longer willing to be our vassals.

But, the Biden administration through either ignorance or outright malice has at every turn made decisions that are catastrophic. With an intelligent, sophisticated president we could have avoided the worst of our current situation and dealt with this world change with grace and finesse.

We are destroying Europe and are now in a fight with several countries for “stealing their industries” now that we have made sure they no longer have energy. We’ve been in a two year effort to destroy the United States, too. Obviously we have already totally destroyed Ukraine.

You better pray we run out of weapons; because if we don’t our Deep State government has plans to start the process of “weakening, destabilizing China leading to regime change.” It’s literally our worldwide calling card...:-(


30 posted on 10/30/2022 8:51:00 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi

“You better pray we run out of weapons”

I remember, decades ago, a top Democrat saying that the reason they always fought against higher funding of the military was that they didn’t trust the Republicans to stay put and NOT go on a rampage around the world.

...now I thank the Democrats for doing that - although they got the party wrong as to who was the threat to world peace.


31 posted on 10/30/2022 8:59:05 AM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 37 degrees)
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To: Cathi
Ukrainian Armed Forces eliminate group of 300 Russians preparing an assault near Maiorsk

The following day, around 60 slightly injured Russian soldiers were hospitalised in Horlivka. Up to 20 Russian soldiers were killed and 30 sustained injuries of various severity in the villages of Chervonopopivka in Luhansk Oblast as a result of an attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Russian forces have been forced to evacuate injured soldiers to the city of Voronezh by bus as a result of the lack of a reliable air ambulance service, the poorly prepared medical infrastructure in Belgorod Oblast, and the fact that all local hospitals there are already at full capacity.

Over the course of the past 24 hours, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have repelled Russian attacks in the vicinity of Vodiane, Kamianka and Nevelske (Donetsk Oblast). Russian forces carried out up to 25 airstrikes and 4 missile strikes, as well as over 70 attacks using multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS).
your forces lost, Katerina
32 posted on 10/30/2022 1:39:53 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: BobL

it’s good that Russia is getting tired of this war. Time for them to get rid of Putin, withdraw troops from Ukraine and end this war.


33 posted on 10/30/2022 1:40:59 PM PDT by Cronos
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Katerina 218,000 mobilized are at the training grounds and are undergoing training and combat coordination, 82,000 people are currently in the SMO zone, of which 41,000 are operating as part of units;

And why does Shoigu need these many, when he said he has lost only 7000 soldiers?

34 posted on 10/30/2022 1:42:05 PM PDT by Cronos
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Today from Russia MOD: During a counter-battery fight in the area of ​​Shevchenkovka, Kherson region, an artillery battery of American M777 howitzers was hit. In the area of ​​the city of Zaporozhye, two launchers of the American HIMARS multiple launch rocket system were hit Yesterday from Russia MOD: In the area of ​​the village of Staroverovka, Kharkiv region, two installations of the American HIMARS multiple launch rocket system, four tanks, 15 vehicles, a missile and artillery depot and 43 Ukrainian militants were destroyed by a missile attack.

Wow - Putin's army has destroyed 43 of the 16 HIMARs sent.... /sarc

35 posted on 10/30/2022 1:43:49 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: mac_truck

Vehledar


36 posted on 10/30/2022 1:48:04 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Cronos

“it’s good that Russia is getting tired of this war. Time for them to get rid of Putin, withdraw troops from Ukraine and end this war.”

Let me know when you wake up and decide to join reality. Then only question for you guys is HOW MUCH of Ukraine do you end up with.


37 posted on 10/30/2022 2:37:24 PM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 37 degrees)
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To: Cathi

Flamethrowers. There is some humane stuff there.


38 posted on 10/30/2022 3:09:20 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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What You Didn’t Know About The Russian Heavy Flamethrower That Spread Fear In Ukraine

BY GEORGIOS MAVRIDIS
PUBLISHED JUN 28, 2022

What exactly is this weird but powerful weapon system that the Russian army is using in Ukraine?

TOS-1 is for sure one of the most unique military weapons that the Russian army has used in the invasion of Ukraine. TOS-1 operates side by side with Russian convoys, providing fire support against Ukrainian defenses. In that way, the Russian main battle tanks and armored vehicles have a clear path to follow. From its design to its performance, the TOS-1 is capable of spreading fear on every battlefield. Let’s see why.

TOS-1 is considered to be a heavy flamethrower system, but in essence, it’s a multiple rocket launch system (MRLS) that uses thermobaric rockets. Thermobaric rockets, and thermobaric weapons in general, are a type of explosive weapons that use oxygen from the surrounded air to produce a high-temperature explosion. Their effect can be very catastrophic.

The Soviet system was designed to provide direct fire support in infantry units and main battle tanks that move through the battlefield. So, as we stated earlier, TOS-1 follows the battle lines of other mechanized units.

When it comes to its unlucky targets, the system mainly engages with military personnel, fortifications, and armored vehicles. TOS-1 works as other MLRS systems but can fire a variety of different ammunition.

The heavy flamethrower was developed in the early ‘80s and was used by the Soviet Army in Afghanistan. Later, Russian forces deployed the weapon system in Chechnya. During these operations, the weapon acquired the nickname “Buratino”. It’s also interesting to note that the original TOS-1 was only used for tests and evaluation and was never produced in quantity. It’s also fascinating that such a powerful system was never exported (the initial design).

TOS-1 can launch 220 mm missiles, while there are two available types of warheads: incendiary and thermobaric (fuel-air explosive bombs). The second choice is being preferred against defenses like fortifications, due to their catastrophic effect. Last but not least, the system features 30 launching tubes.

However, TOS-1 has a relatively limited range of just 2.1 miles. The closed targetable enemy can be 0.2 miles away. The system can launch a missile or a pair of missiles in just 0.5 seconds. A full salvo requires 7.5 or 15 seconds and covers an area of 655 to 1,300 feet.

TOS-1 is equipped with a modern fire control system. The navigation and the firing process take place inside the vehicle, although the crew is safe for counterattacks. The vehicle uses a modified T-72 chassis, which is the body of a Soviet-ear main battle tank. To move, there is a V-82-1 diesel engine that provides 340 miles of range and a top speed of 40 miles per hour.

What Version Does Russia Use In Ukraine?

In the ongoing war in Ukraine, Russian forces have deployed the TOS-1A version that started serving in 2001. The BM-1 launch vehicle has 24 launch tubes, while the maximum range has increased to 3.7 miles.

Plus, now the systems are being escorted by the new ZM-T, which carries 12 missiles. It also carries 400 liters of fuel for the launching vehicle.


39 posted on 10/30/2022 3:26:49 PM PDT by Cathi
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