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Original New York Times article: https://web.archive.org/web/20221009102347/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/09/us/california-high-speed-rail-politics.html
1 posted on 10/24/2022 11:17:08 AM PDT by grundle
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California’s high speed rail project is going to end up as the world’s most expensive bike trail.


2 posted on 10/24/2022 11:20:45 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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Every time I read about this I think of the monorail episode of the Simpson’s.


3 posted on 10/24/2022 11:22:54 AM PDT by pas
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O’Toole notes that Japan’s high-speed trains seemed like the future in the 1960s, when air travel was more expensive than rail. Also, Japan’s high-speed trains had a ready-made customer base in the considerable proportion of the country’s population that already traveled by train.

Yup. I remember the comic books where this appeared, back then.

6 posted on 10/24/2022 11:29:16 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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If they can't get high-speed rail between LA and Vegas then what's the point?

Every weekend Hwy 15 is jam-packed with traffic going to and from Vegas. High-speed rail might actually make sense there, and yet for some reason that doesn't even make financial sense.

Whoever thought that high-speed rail could replace low cost puddle jumper flights between LA and Frisco?

9 posted on 10/24/2022 11:32:39 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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I have a high speed rail for Newsom, and its made out of cedar.

I also have the tar and feathers to go along with it.


10 posted on 10/24/2022 11:33:27 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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There is another post about the Triangle Black UFO.

This CA Rail discussion triggered that as similar.

So, CA can get some black triangle UFOs to pick up passengers from LA and ‘zap’ them to San Fran and back.

That would be cheaper, more efficient, and more sure of success than this ‘rail line’.


12 posted on 10/24/2022 11:35:06 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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Predictable from the first mention!

Starting in the middle and working out from that point is a stupid plan for a transportation system with no demand projected for the 20 years that followed.

This was always a money laundering scheme for DNC contributors.

13 posted on 10/24/2022 11:35:09 AM PDT by G Larry (Population Control means Killing Billions, not "limiting growth".)
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I always thought it was strange that oil pipelines were considered dangerous to the migration of animals, but apparently high-speed rail is not.


16 posted on 10/24/2022 11:44:30 AM PDT by The Duke (Search for 'Sydney Ducks' and understand what is needed.)
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ya... lets see what happens when its all done and the train is doing 210+ and a mild earthquake hits. I’m surprised japan’s hasnt got whacked yet this way!!


17 posted on 10/24/2022 11:46:34 AM PDT by sit-rep ( )
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One would think that a rail line through the open and sparsely populated Central Valley would be a trivial exercise. Nope.

I really believe that California has reached the stage where nothing important or significant will ever be built there again. There are too many lawyers, too many fantasy rules to follow, too many special interest obstructionists, too many people to bribe. Too many cost overruns. When the French pull out, you know you've hit rock bottom.

19 posted on 10/24/2022 11:56:28 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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The biggest mustake were the desinations. California has considered and shelved a high-speed train to Las Vegas years ago. Those who don't or can't fly are stuck on the highways for hours and hours during holidays.

I know I've done it many times. Traffic gets so backed up on Sundays on I-5, that my buds and I had to risk a ticket for riding on the shoulder or let our motorcycle motors overheat beyond repair. The I-5 is nothing but miles and miles of desert until it connects with with Victorville. Then more miles of deserts except for the occasional small town with accomodations.

I drove from east San Diego to meet up with the Minutemen in Tombstone. Miles and miles of desert. Further than from LA to Vegas, but same experience.

South Cali taxpayers were for that high-speed link to Vegas. It was known that link would have gone through the desert along the same freight tracks in desert land, and not need to buy property for this boondoggle that is going nowhere. The concept between LA and Frisco was cool, the execution has not been.

Fast-forward to the present, and the dream is all but dead. The Obama plan collapsed, falling victim to a combination of inexperience, mismanagement and furious opposition from several key Republican legislators and state governors. The California project is still technically up and running, but it is so far behind schedule that it has yet to lay a single mile of track, despite 14 years of work and about $5bn spent.

I believe this article to be a little behind. Pretty sure the line now connects Merced to Modesto. Google a map and you'll see why this debacle is called the "train to nowhere."

20 posted on 10/24/2022 12:07:21 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021. )
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Stalin’s Soviet Union was big on wasteful public works that were useless. Intended to kill off the slave laborers rather than do any good. The White Sea Canal, railroads to nowhere among many others.


24 posted on 10/25/2022 2:28:15 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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