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Putin’s War in Ukraine May Destroy Russia
wsj ^ | 20 oCT 2022 | Michael Khodarkovsky

Posted on 10/21/2022 7:31:04 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

The Western media for decades has hailed Vladimir Putin as a great strategist. But if the past eight months have proved one thing, it’s that this strategic wizard often achieves the opposite of his intentions.

...Mr. Putin should look to history. During World War I, Russian authorities tried to conscript Muslims from Central Asia. The result was a major uprising in summer 1916, which took months and tens of thousands of Russian troops to suppress. In the end, none of the Muslims were sent to battle—and, by withdrawing army units from the front to confront the internal uprising, Russia expedited its eventual defeat. Less than six months later, the czar and his government were forced to resign.

By sending poorly trained non-Russian men to Ukraine, Moscow may soon meet a similar fate. Centuries of pent-up bitterness and frustration over rule by Moscow may spill into a military confrontation and civil war. Given Russia’s current military defeats, this isn’t a distant prospect. If and when that happens, Russia will fall apart as the empire of the czars and Soviet Union did. It would be ironic if the man who wanted to revive the U.S.S.R. instead ushers in the twilight of Russia’s last empire.

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To: FreshPrince

Apparently, you don’t stay up on news to learn why?


21 posted on 10/21/2022 7:54:58 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

No I dont stay on top of Russian media. Its all lies...


22 posted on 10/21/2022 7:55:45 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: 1Old Pro

It seems like the military situation has stabilized, relatively speaking. Russia wanted it land corridor to Crimea, and has got it.


23 posted on 10/21/2022 7:56:01 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: drierice

—”The media doesn’t know Putin’s intentions, but they judge him anyway.”

‘You cannot judge a book by its cover.’

‘Actions speak louder than words.’


24 posted on 10/21/2022 7:57:00 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: FreshPrince

Your loss, my gain.


25 posted on 10/21/2022 7:58:15 AM PDT by cranked
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To: DUMBGRUNT
During World War I, Russian authorities tried to conscript Muslims from Central Asia. The result was a major uprising in summer 1916, which took months and tens of thousands of Russian troops to suppress. In the end, none of the Muslims were sent to battle—and, by withdrawing army units from the front to confront the internal uprising, Russia expedited its eventual defeat. Less than six months later, the czar and his government were forced to resign.

By sending poorly trained non-Russian men to Ukraine, Moscow may soon meet a similar fate. Centuries of pent-up bitterness and frustration over rule by Moscow may spill into a military confrontation and civil war.

There is a difference this time-around. A lot of "Russian" petroleum & natural gas actually comes from majority-Muslim areas like Kazakhstan and distributed through pipelines running thru Russian territory toward Europe. So there is -- at least for now -- some common economic interests between Russia and the former Soviet Republics.

26 posted on 10/21/2022 7:58:32 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: DUMBGRUNT

So far, its destroying western politicians and debt-bloated, woke western economies.

8-10% inflation in US and Eurozone, Liz Truss in UK gone after 43 days, Euro and Yen collapsing, financial bailouts already in UK, Switzerland and Germany. Stock markets down 25-30%/ And Joe Biden????

IGNORE, what’s happening in your own country - and focus your attention on WTF we tell you is happening in Russia!!


27 posted on 10/21/2022 7:58:59 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: MMusson
“How is a world with 6000 nuclear warheads up for grabs a safer place? You are out of your mind.”

They will not have the ability or a reason to launch. They wont even be able to maintain them. Russia is the number one threat and to have it disappear would be worth any smaller risk.

28 posted on 10/21/2022 8:00:12 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: MMusson

Time to offer peace while Russia is on its back leg and hasn’t used any nukes.

“Russian peace” terms are basically Russia keeps everything claimed - even though it does not occupy all of those Obalsts and Ukraine gets neutered. Or crime pays as does invasion.

Not much of a negotiation

Ukraine - the people of Ukraine - not the corrupt and hated government, want their whole country back, including Crimea, NATO & EU acceptance.

Not much of a negotiation


29 posted on 10/21/2022 8:00:42 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

One thing for sure is that America is being ruined and that is what I care about.

People write these articles as though they care when it really is just propaganda OR lies and fabrications for political reasons.


30 posted on 10/21/2022 8:01:49 AM PDT by dforest
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Who is Michael Khodarkovsky and how many wars has he predicted the outcome of successfully?


31 posted on 10/21/2022 8:01:51 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: MMusson
"How is a world with 6000 nuclear warheads up for grabs a safer place?"


32 posted on 10/21/2022 8:02:03 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: amnestynone

—”Wow, a world without Russia! The world will be much safer if Russia disintegrates.”

TRUE, but sad for the many victims, both in and outside of Russia.

I like idioms and cliches, proverbs...

‘You can never get up if you are holding the other SOB down.’


33 posted on 10/21/2022 8:02:53 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

If history has taught us anything, it’s that one baddie will replace another.

I suspect Turkey will be the new baddie if Russia is weakened.


34 posted on 10/21/2022 8:03:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: FreshPrince

That is old news.


35 posted on 10/21/2022 8:03:54 AM PDT by dforest
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To: PIF

Thank you for exposing the real reason for why Ukraine is more than a proxy war and more about regime change and then the splitting up of Russia so as to allow for the plunder of its vast resources. If one Yeltsin were still alive to have allowed such.

“LTC Ritter, CPT Bennett, MAJ Jaco (all CIA SPEC OPS) annihilate Woke-West Lies/False Russ Narrative”
https://rumble.com/v1ozskj-ltc-ritter-cpt-bennett-maj-jaco-all-cia-spec-ops-annihilate-woke-west-liesf.html


36 posted on 10/21/2022 8:04:49 AM PDT by cranked
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To: MMusson

—”Time to offer peace while Russia is on its back leg and hasn’t used any nukes.”

If you were of an old line Ukraianan family what would give up to end the war, would the peace last for generations?


37 posted on 10/21/2022 8:07:36 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: PIF

The US and UK would not allow for negotiations anyhow, who you fooling PIF. Not like the US and UK have not already sabotaged 2 peace deals ZelenskyyIdiot was seriously contemplating in taking....:duh:


38 posted on 10/21/2022 8:07:58 AM PDT by cranked
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Apparently, not.

Peace ended in 2014 when the neo-Nazi influenced Ukrainian government just spit and trampled all over the Minsk accords and shelled, attacked, and essentially committed genocide on its own Ukrainian Russian speaking and ethic Russian citizens in the Donbass regions......


39 posted on 10/21/2022 8:10:39 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Ciexyz

The battle for world supremacy a hundred years from now might feature China and the Muslims going at it. By 2122 most of the U.S. might be occupied territory. Just spinning out dystopian speculations on my first cup of coffee...

Once Iran has the bomb and produces it in mass quantities, things will really get started. Thanks, Biden!


40 posted on 10/21/2022 8:13:34 AM PDT by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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