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„Human Life Has No Value There“: Baltic Counterintelligence Officers Speak Candidly About Russian Cruelty
Eesti Ekspress ^ | October 17, 2022 | Eero Epner

Posted on 10/20/2022 8:52:00 AM PDT by Czech_Occidentalist

The Estonian weekly Eesti Ekspress interviewed the heads and several employees of Estonia’s, Latvia’s, and Lithuania’s state security agencies. This is what they had to say regarding Russia. ...

Toots wasn’t surprised by the atrocities committed in Bucha. Nor were any other of the counterintelligence agents I interviewed in Estonia, Latvia, or Lithuania. They’re aware of how Russians conducted themselves in the Baltics during the Second World War. Of how they conducted themselves before that. Of how they’ve always behaved. The West lacks such awareness.

„[The West is] fortunate,“ Toots remarks. „We’re a buffer between them and Russia. They’ve forgotten a lot and think Russia is just like them.“

It isn’t. ...

„If you want to know Russia, then don’t go to St. Petersburg or Moscow,“ says Toots. He once spent six months in Kronstadt, a stone’s throw from St. Petersburg but filled with an entirely different breed of people. There, no one removed their hats at the table or knew a single thing about etiquette. Everything was decaying and chair legs were on the verge of snapping off beneath you, but no one lifted a finger to fix anything, simply sighing „Ah…“ and giving a dismissive a wave of the hand. The atmosphere was infused with something intrinsically foreign to the West – Russian society is accustomed to suffering. An injustice that sends Parisians out onto the streets won’t make a single resident of Novosibirsk scratch the back of their necks. ...

„Look at what they did in the Second World War,“ Sinisalu says when we discuss the mass graves, rapes, and deportations in Ukraine. „It’s the exact same.“ Sinisalu’s maternal grandparents were deported to Siberia, where both perished. What’s happening in Ukraine today has been seen and endured before in Tallinn, Riga, and Vilnius.

(Excerpt) Read more at ekspress.delfi.ee ...


TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: 5hill4democrats; buchawasazov; buchawasazovguys; cruelty; eeroepner; globalistpropaganda; nullbot; putin; putinswar; putinswarofchoice; russia; russianaggression; russianimperialism; thenullbot; thezerobot; ukraine; zerobot
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To: mac_truck

21 posted on 10/20/2022 10:07:23 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Czech_Occidentalist; mac_truck
The Russians committed horrible atrocities comparable to Nazi atrocities.

You have pinwheels-for-eyes, Czech_Boy.

22 posted on 10/20/2022 10:09:36 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Czech_Occidentalist

“How can you call yourself conservative?”

Quite a few of them don’t even bother with that anymore. They’ll call themselves nationalists, or populists, while decrying conservatives as weak at best, and in collusion with the left at worst.


23 posted on 10/20/2022 10:11:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

It’s interesting to note that Hitler got his ideas how a terrifying police state should operate by studying the Soviets who had it down to a fine art by the time 1933 rolled around.


24 posted on 10/20/2022 10:12:52 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: ought-six

That’s the standard line that Soviet communists always took...


25 posted on 10/20/2022 10:13:22 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SpaceBar

Yes, but the Soviets didn’t actually invent that... they just co-opted the Tsarist secret police apparatus and gave it even more power and authority.


26 posted on 10/20/2022 10:16:21 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Hitler also noted how the world nary blinked over the Armenian genocide by the Turks.


27 posted on 10/20/2022 10:18:07 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Boogieman

The Okhrana. Yep, pretty much the Soviets just co-opted the Czars’ infrastructure and put it under new management.


28 posted on 10/20/2022 10:20:58 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SpaceBar
Hitler also noted how the world nary blinked over the Armenian genocide by the Turks.

This is a crucial point people don't get. Anyone who went through WWI got used to the idea of thousands dying every day. And Hitler saw the Final Solution as nothing more than what the Turks did.

29 posted on 10/20/2022 10:23:53 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: kiryandil

Are you denying the Holodomor in Ukraine? Are you denying the existence of Gulags? Are you denying the Katyn forest massacre? If so, how are you different from Holocaust deniers?

Here is a nice song for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQdiSpA8h60

I’m sure you will like it.


30 posted on 10/20/2022 10:34:29 AM PDT by Czech_Occidentalist
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To: Czech_Occidentalist; ought-six; Boogieman

31 posted on 10/20/2022 10:37:09 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: Czech_Occidentalist

Yeah, the Baltic countries certainly have first hand historical experience of exactly how cruel Russian invasion and rule can be. Great post!


32 posted on 10/20/2022 10:42:54 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: mac_truck

A nice song for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQdiSpA8h60


33 posted on 10/20/2022 10:45:23 AM PDT by Czech_Occidentalist
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To: Gaffer
I remember seeing a video of a silent UAV drone that carefully hovered over and dropped a small bomb on a single Russian soldier in a trench.

So why was that Russian solider in that trench in Ukraine in the first place?

34 posted on 10/20/2022 10:46:52 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Czech_Occidentalist
Just another M-Tacnik nutball...
35 posted on 10/20/2022 10:59:10 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Timber Rattler; Gaffer
So why was that Russian solider in that trench in Ukraine in the first place?

The Russian soldier was in an oblast of the Russian Federation, NeverTrump.

36 posted on 10/20/2022 11:06:31 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: mac_truck
   

The M-Tacniks are REALLY angry today...

37 posted on 10/20/2022 11:08:29 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Gaffer

Hey Gaffer, where was that trench: in Ukraine or in Russia? What was that Russian soldier doing in that trench, collecting flowers for his herbarium? Spare your crocodile tears for something else.


38 posted on 10/20/2022 11:09:57 AM PDT by exinnj
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To: mac_truck
Wonder how many of these accounts will go dark when the Russians finish off the Ukie electrical grid?     
39 posted on 10/20/2022 11:10:07 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

Aren’t we geographically enlightened, kiryandil, for a low-level troll?


40 posted on 10/20/2022 11:18:44 AM PDT by exinnj
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