Posted on 10/20/2022 3:12:29 AM PDT by RandFan
@mariatad
A second audio from Berlusconi has leaked in which he is heard saying «Ukraine violated the Minsk deal, Zelenskiy tripled attacks on Donbas and pushed Putin to a special operation» that was supposed to last a week but escalated after the West sent money and weapons to Kyiv. 1/
Berlusconi says he’d rather not say out loud what he thinks about Zelenskiy. Then continues: «I don’t see how Putin and Zelensky can talk. Unless there’s an intervention, the war won’t end» worth noting this is a private conversation where Berlusconi asks for maximum discretion.
Berlusconi - personally - and Forza Italia - generally - now on damage control saying the leaked audios were taken out of context and are part of a longer conversation. But the recordings are now national scandal and puts Forza Italia in uncomfortable position for two reasons:
Forza Italia is part of the EPP - same as Von der Leyen - who is one of the most vocal supporters of Ukraine - and the Italian government itself is up in the air. Meloni, the incoming premier, has said her foreign policy would stick to Draghi’s supportive stance.
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Dont know if the charges against Zelensky are true but you gotta wonder about a man who wears the same T shirt for 6 months.
Did Victoria Nuland put Zelensky in office too?
You still doing Oryx threads?
And Joe Biden got 81,000,000 votes. Most ever in the history of elections
“You still doing Oryx threads?”
Oh yea.
Right over your head...
Maybe… age of consent in Italy is 14. Which I just learned on Wikipedia.
“Silvio Berlusconi, then the Prime Minister of Italy, was accused and initially formally convicted of paying 17-year-old Moroccan Karima El Mahroug, also known by the stage name Ruby Rubacuori (Italian for “Ruby the Heartstealer”), for sexual services between February and May 2010 when she was under the age of 18; he was found not guilty on appeal.[N 1][2][3] He was found not guilty on appeal also, formerly convicted of malfeasance in office (Italian: concussione) by arranging to have El Mahroug released from police detention during an incident in which she was briefly held on claims of theft. On 24 June 2013, the Court of First Instance sentenced Berlusconi to seven years in prison, and banned him from public office for life.[4] Berlusconi appealed the sentence,[5] and on 18 July 2014, an appeals court overturned Berlusconi’s conviction, thus making him once again eligible to hold elected office.[6][7]”
“Neither having sex with a person between the ages of 14 and 17 nor adult prostitution is illegal in Italy, but paying a person under 18 for sex is a crime[1] punishable by up to three years’ imprisonment.”
Let’s see, what did Obama mean by asking Putin to wait until after his re-election?
Could it be Putin please wait for annexation of Crimea, then the US CIA (Brennan, the commie) will help overthrow the Ukraine gov’t so it will break the Minsk Agreement and request NATO membership? This will give Russia the excuse to start a war that ends up spiraling out of control.
Ukraine is being used as a pawn by Obama/Biden to start WW4.
Obama and Putin buddies? I didn’t know that. Can you show where you get that?
President Obama: “This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.”
President Medvedev: “I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir, and I stand with you.”
That doesn’t mean they were buddies.
Possible scenario. This would mean that Putin is playing his part in the theater, like Zelensky, to usher in the Great Reset and bring WW3 to the world to destroy the nation state (Russia included). While I find this scenario unlikely, it is possible.
After the dust settles and the WEF elitists have remade the West, they will write the history that Putin helped usher in the utopia of global communism. If Putin is very sick and dying, he would be assured of a great legacy by playing his part in this.
1) Leftists would call that answer "whataboutism."
2)What causes inflation in Europe? Is it the Greens + other categories of socialism?
When was the Russian language outlawed in Ukraine?
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