Posted on 10/20/2022 3:12:29 AM PDT by RandFan
@mariatad
A second audio from Berlusconi has leaked in which he is heard saying «Ukraine violated the Minsk deal, Zelenskiy tripled attacks on Donbas and pushed Putin to a special operation» that was supposed to last a week but escalated after the West sent money and weapons to Kyiv. 1/
Berlusconi says he’d rather not say out loud what he thinks about Zelenskiy. Then continues: «I don’t see how Putin and Zelensky can talk. Unless there’s an intervention, the war won’t end» worth noting this is a private conversation where Berlusconi asks for maximum discretion.
Berlusconi - personally - and Forza Italia - generally - now on damage control saying the leaked audios were taken out of context and are part of a longer conversation. But the recordings are now national scandal and puts Forza Italia in uncomfortable position for two reasons:
Forza Italia is part of the EPP - same as Von der Leyen - who is one of the most vocal supporters of Ukraine - and the Italian government itself is up in the air. Meloni, the incoming premier, has said her foreign policy would stick to Draghi’s supportive stance.
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Z is a fool and a fraud…
Thought that from day 1 and nothing has given me reason to think otherwise
Who is more foolish and fraudulent?
The multitude of people on FR that blindly support him and support our government throwing away billions in cash and equipment because Russia Bad, while the US is circling the drain?
Putin gave that as one of the reasons for starting this operation. The Ukrainians have shelling the Donbas since 2014.
In what way is that a similar map?
From what era? Drawn by whom?
Is it from 1949 to today, in current reality on the ground?
Putin broke the Budapest Agreement with Ukraine.
Yah,
I can show a map of what USA looked like in 1786. Its meaningless today.
Why damage control mode? Is telling truth unacceptable in our days?
No elections due to the "security situation." Martial law, total censorship, etc.
Zelensky was pushing to join NATO that Biden was open to accepting.
Zelensky refused to negotiate with Russia over these matters.
Zelensky continued to destabilize the situation with the blessing of Biden
Remember, Obama and Putin are buddies. They work together. This whole situation smells of a setup to trigger a nuclear exchange that can lead to The Great Reset. Putin will go down in history as helping usher in the communist domination of the West.
There are no "good guys" here, folks.
Berlusconi still doing 16 year old girls?
Well, you win the debate, right there. I'm convinced. And it's TOTALLY a great reason to have a global nuclear war over who controls the Russian Donbass. (Which has only changed control 173 times in history, in the region called "The Ukraine," meaning "The Borderland," which was never an independent nation in history before 1991, after the breakup of the USSR.)
But by all means, let's push toward a global nuclear war over it in 2022.
Read this again, Freepers:
“Meloni, the incoming premier, has said her foreign policy would stick to Draghi’s supportive stance.”
As shown by this post, what they say in PUBLIC is not necessarily how they feel or what they believe.
Interesting...if true.
Idiotic statement.
That’s an upgrade in standards compared to our President
Matt what’s up with you and Fernando? He’s doing his streams alone and was talking yesterday like that’s going to continue. It’s not the same and the number of those listening has fallen dramatically.
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