Posted on 10/17/2022 8:50:46 AM PDT by ransomnote
haluski too
Run out of straw yet?
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Support for Zelensky/Ukraine is support for Biden/Deep State, Vermont Lt wrote: That is quite a post you put together.
But, Russian tanks are on streets that don’t belong to them. It’s pretty simple…they can go home and the people of the world will go back to not giving a hoot about either Russia or Ukraine.
Your entire argument is “They made me do it.” That doesn’t work for three year olds. It doesn’t work now.
And you dismiss the greed motivation of the Russians.
The deep state, with the help of our own CIA, overthrew the Ukraine in 2014-2015. I wrote that in the post. Did you read it?
I then provided extensive transcript information detailing how the region continues to serve as a money laundering/fraud storefront for the Ukraine. So those Azov Ukraine tanks are on streets that don't belong to them - they belong to the Deep State.
The pretense that the Ukraine is free and running at the will of the people is a lie, a disastrous lie at that.
Things have gotten so desperate for Russia they have resorted flinging Iranian drones at Kiev apartment buildings and playgrounds ala Hitler and his V2s.
And unlike V2, can be shot down with small arms....
“Handing weapons and/or money to the Ukraine is the same as directly handing it to our globalist enemies who work to destroy us.”
That opinion is deranged.
Question if you had to live under one of the leaders, which would you prefer:
* Biden
* Putin
* Ayatollah Khamenei
* Kim Jong-un
* Fidel Castro
You need a severe case of Biden Derangement Syndrome to think he is the worst thing in the world. He is a mediocrity and one of our worst presidents, but he isn’t a murderous despot.
Oh dear. The howling ankle-nippers will be quivering, yipping and yapping over this one.
Russia has there own suicide drones, propagandist.
Furthermore, spare me the fake rage of Russia getting drones from Iran. So like its A-OK for Ukraine to be getting military hardware from NATO but NOT A-OK for Russia to be getting military hardware from Iran?
Hypocrite much?
Oh my bad, pretty a-typical of folks like you.
It’s A-OK to kill tens of thousands of civilians in Iraq or elsewhere and then call such “collateral damage” but when civilians are killed in Kyiv, etc., it’s terrorism, etc., etc., etc.
Yeah, you all need to check your hypocrisy levels cause the stench of it is beyond nauseating.
Handing weapons and/or money to the Ukraine is the same as directly handing it to our globalist enemies who work to destroy us.
I believe your premise is false.
We directly supplied Stalin with weapons and material during WWII, and before we entered the war.
Stalin was far worse than the Ukrainian government. The example of Stalin and the Soviet Union is a counter-example which disproves your premise.
Stalin was much more of a threat to us than Ukraine is today. (He was aligned with the Deep Staters in the USA as well.
Russia is as much a threat to the peace of Europe (and the world) as Hitler was in 1938.
You still can’t refute the fact that the Bidens and Deep State buddies are the recipients of any resources they feel like taking from the Ukraine, a region overthrown and run by their hand picked porn star at their behest. The puppet Zelensky does what the Deep State tells him to do, and sending money and weapons to the Ukraine is sending it to the Deep State for their continued appropriation. You can change the subject 100 times but the truth behind who owns and operates the Ukraine, who benefits from ‘donations’ is irrefutable.
Your premise is false.
The comparison with Stalin is inaccurate.
Any dime or bomb given to the Ukraine will be taken up by our enemies to use against our interests and they don’t care if they destroy Ukrainian citizens in the process.
Great post!
I believe your premise is wrong as well.
Who let the Nazis escape?
Who did not clear the Nazis out of their sphere of influence?
Who protected Nazis tucked away in Scandinavia and Canada?
Who brought the Nazis to the US to build the CIA and add to the war industries?
Who looked the other way as Nazis flowed to Latin America?
If it wasn’t for the Israelis, many Nazis would have lived in the West until they died in their beds.
The Soviets’ sphere was virtually purified from Nazis. They hunted down Bandera and sent him to hell.
The US modeled itself on some of the worst principles of the Third Reich: One primary one being its obsession about/with Communism.
Let’s be honest here: The West claims of defeating Nazism doesn’t pass any test of the facts nor does it pass the ‘Russia is the greatest threat since sliced bread, the invention of the toaster, and Hitler 1938.
“You still can’t refute the fact that the Bidens and Deep State buddies are the recipients of any resources they feel like taking from the Ukraine, a”
Question, doesn’t the Deep State already control the United States and our military? If so giving American weapons to the Ukraine is not “giving them to the Deep State.” They already have them.
All they are doing is using the weapons they already control to kill some Russians, and that is a good thing.
False
Bribing US politicians is simply in Ukraine's (and many other foreign powers') best interests. The problem isn't Ukraine, it's corrupt US politicians.
The notion that the US 'installed' a puppet regime is simply nonsense. In fact, Yanukovych revealed himself to be Putin's tool in Ukraine and the Ukrainian people ousted him. We simply went along for the ride, and there have been several new elections since in Ukraine. This can only be a 'provocation' for Russia if you think Russia should control Ukraine. Is that what you think?
It is simply inconceivable to think how a Russian victory in Ukraine could be in US geopolitical interests. If you think Ukraine needs to be defeated to 'get back' at the Deep State, you're no different that communists who cheered on North Vietnam because they hated the US regime so much they saw the victory of a foreign power over the US as a positive step in their own political struggle.
Sure.
Except the Soviets were worse than the NAZIs. They are both just versions of totalitarian leftist ideologies.
Fun Fact?
“Ukraine was NEVER a country until 1991 east of the river. That is why Bandara joined Hitler’s Nazis, promising they would be allowed to form a nation. Kiev was the origin of the Rus who are the Russians today. I am telling you I know Kyiv very well. They are the MOST corrupt government in the entire world. You cannot deal with them and ever expect the truth. They routinely created false flags, they shot down that Malaysian flight and tried to blame it on Russia”
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/ukraine/ukraine-was-never-a-country-until-1991/
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Support for Zelensky/Ukraine is support for Biden/Deep State, Renfrew wrote: “You still can’t refute the fact that the Bidens and Deep State buddies are the recipients of any resources they feel like taking from the Ukraine, a”
Question, doesn’t the Deep State already control the United States and our military? If so giving American weapons to the Ukraine is not “giving them to the Deep State.” They already have them.
All they are doing is using the weapons they already control to kill some Russians, and that is a good thing.
I've never been in your present situation wherein all you can do is deflect because there's no way for you to actually refute my argument.
The Deep State doesn't have complete control of the US and our military. If they did, China would have helped 'distribute' the 'vaccine' at mandatory injection sites around the country. The Biden 'administration' complained bitterly about their feeble control over key military assets when they took office. A publication like 'the hill' or some such featured an article in which the Biden staff was infuriated because the US Military wouldn't answer questions about resources, but instead consulted a lawyer present. There's a firewall partially limiting Biden's control and if there wasn't, we wouldn't be having this conversation as we would not be permitted internet access.
“It’s A-OK to kill tens of thousands of civilians in Iraq or elsewhere and then call such “collateral damage” but when civilians are killed in Kyiv, etc., it’s terrorism, etc., etc., etc.”
When did I say that?
But its the old “Everyone else is doing it so its ok” excuse.
deliberating targeting civilians is not “collalteral damage”; its a war crime.
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