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To: WMarshal; DoodleBob
Uhm, sorry. The previous comment was for Doodledork.the COVIDiot.

I think that you have misinterpreted DoodleBob's position on COVID.

I think that he is actually against mandatory vaxxination. His saying that "Covid was on the Death Certificate" is a plain statement of fact - but we all know that such a statistic belies the true nature of the situation (i.e., that comorbidities were routinely ignored).

Regards,

31 posted on 10/15/2022 11:55:18 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek; WMarshal; ransomnote; Jane Long; metmom; Grampa Dave; Tilted Irish Kilt
Thank you. Yes, I'm completely against vaxx mandates. JimRob got the shot and he's not sheeple. If informed people who are compromised choose to take the shot, that's their choice and I support it.

But if people do NOT want the shot, treating them like a war criminal is despicable on moral grounds....but for the empiricists, let's go to the tote board.

Per the FDA in June 2020, the FDA would expect that a COVID-19 vaccine would prevent disease or decrease its severity in at least 50% of people who are vaccinated.

This is where words become REALLY important. In the US, the basis of approval EUA and the only "approved" Vaccine, was for PREVENTION...NOT for decreased severity. Indeed, look at the actual FDA and Pfizer-BioNTech info.

Per the FDA's website,

On August 23, 2021, the FDA approved the first COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty, for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older.(emphasis added)

Per the Comernity Insert,

--------------------------- INDICATIONS AND USAGE----------------------------
COMIRNATY is a vaccine indicated for active immunization to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in individuals 16 years of age and older. (1)(emphasis added)

Per the Summary Basis for Regulatory Action, under "Indication"

Active immunization to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in individuals 16 years of age and older. (Emphasis added)

Clearly, the vaccine is for PREVENTION. Nothing else. All of the clinical trials (limited as they were) and statistical confidence intervals were focused on VE with regard to PREVENTION...not hospitalization, not ER visits, not fatalies, and not symptoms. Accordingly, THAT is the basis upon which approval and Efficacy should be based.

So let's examine the time-series of VE for these shots since authorization, keeping in mind the FDA benchmark of 50%. Remember, VE = the percentage reduction in infection rate in the test vs control groups.

Without making this a massive post, I'll concede that published VEs in various studies in 2021 were above 50%. Indeed, the time EUA was granted, the shots had an in-same VE around 90%....who could oppose such a thing?

As an important side note, all of this research is based on statistical analyses of data. They are NOT clinical trials. That is an important distinction, because 1) none of these shots underwent legitimate trials that examined long-term impacts that other approved vaccines underwent and 2) vaccines fail trials 59% of the time and take a median of 9 years. Therefore, we should have VERY LITTLE TOLERANCE for declining VE for these shots.

Then by the summer of 2021, we noticed VE started declining. In and of itself, this isn't too problematic - few things last forever. BUT, the rate of decay in VE didn't get much airtime. For what it's worth,by the end of July I did some modeling and it looked like VE would fall below 50% just 6 months after the second shot and become totally ineffective by 10 months. Further research in August showed VE during Delta falling to 66%.

Ruh roh.

With Omicron, we saw VE being zero in Norway and Denmark and of course the US.

Pleae note, at no point in this post have I declared that these shots have nanotechnology in them, make you glow, have the Mark of the Beast, or are part of some conspiracy. I'm playing by their rules of "science."

Therefore, if VE is now not only below 50% but at zero, and the benchmark was 50%, the EUAs and approvals should be yanked. Even if these elixirs lower symptoms, that's not the basis of approval...rules are there for a reason.

....unless you're in the government, and rules are for the little people. The 50% VE threshold was blown away when assessing shots for CHILDREN.

Finally, boosters prop up VE but decreasingly so. Soon you'll need a boost every week.

Parenthetically, ransomnte posted an intriguing article that posited that "But (VE) is not decreasing at all. Your immune system response is decreasing. You are developing VAIDS, Vaccine Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome." Hmmmm....

THIS is why people refuse the shots.... If we follow their "rules of science" and these shots don't not have VE above 50%, then they absolutely deserve ridicule and revocation.

And yet, these "approved" shots - which have caused familial and societal strife, vective, unrest, unemployment, and brought us to a Constitutional "crisis" where three lawyers on SCOTUS thought it was peachy for OSHA to enact a mandate without congressional approval - remain in effect under an EUA where the BASIS was PREVENTION.

I think Grampa Dave has the answer to

But it’s evident the vaccines don’t work and have deadly risks. Why, if any government cared about the safety of their people, would they force the entire population to ingest a medical product with serious risks?

A: None of this was about our health.

46 posted on 10/16/2022 6:11:10 AM PDT by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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