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Metaphysical Puzzles
BEJ

Posted on 10/10/2022 9:11:35 AM PDT by BEJ

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To: Red Badger

You mind find this very interesting, Red:

“Today’s oceanography and meteorology owe a great debt to Matthew Maury. He exemplified the biblical principle that whatever we do, we should do it “to the glory of God” (1 Corinthians 10:31). Maury’s scientific research revered God’s Creatorship while benefiting his fellowman.1

“On a monument erected by the state of Virginia to his memory is found a plaque that reads as follows: “Matthew Fontaine Maury, Pathfinder of the Seas, the genius who first snatched from the oceans and atmosphere the secret of their laws. His inspiration, Holy Writ, Psalm 8:8; Ecclesiastes 1:6.”2

“Genius indeed! Maury epitomizes the godly investigator whose creation science begins with the Creator’s written revelation—the Bible.3”

Continued at: https://bibleapologetics.org/matthew-maury-pathfinder-of-the-seas/


61 posted on 10/10/2022 11:23:19 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Help America!)
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To: BEJ

“If God is infinite it would take an eternity for him to know himself.”
Eternity? as in time? God made time.


62 posted on 10/10/2022 11:24:21 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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To: Jamestown1630

You might want to contemplate Luke 9:10-17 for the answer.


63 posted on 10/10/2022 11:51:23 AM PDT by curious7
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To: curious7

I know the story. I’m not sure I believe it completely literally, as written, anymore than I do the Noah one.

But I think there may be lots of things in the Bible which are actually even more amazing than they seem on the surface.


64 posted on 10/10/2022 11:57:24 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: mountainlion
"Humans do not have a grasp of infinity"

Mathematician Georg Cantor (1845-1918) was evidently a finite human, yet was able to show that there are different sizes of infinity. For example, he showed that the infinite set of real numbers is larger than the infinite set of natural numbers, but the infinite set of real numbers is smaller than the infinite power set of real numbers.

Cantor was also able to grasp (and show) that the infinite set of real points on a straight line between 0 and 1 is the same size as the infinite set of real points on the infinite lines contained on a plane between 0,0 and 1,1, or, for that matter, the infinite set of real points on all of the infinite planes within a cube (0,0,0 to 1,1,1).

65 posted on 10/10/2022 12:32:46 PM PDT by Carl Vehse (A proud member of the LGBFJB community)
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To: Don Corleone

“God resides in dimensions other than the ones we are stuck with.”

The term “dimensions” is very misleading and confusing imho.

I think “reality” is way more complicated and subtle than hairless apes can even imagine.


66 posted on 10/10/2022 12:36:16 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg
'My kingdom is not of this world,,,but now is my kingdom not from hence.'
67 posted on 10/10/2022 12:46:10 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Carl Vehse

That is only definitions of infinity. What if there are an infinite number of infinities?


68 posted on 10/10/2022 2:50:57 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion
mountainlion: "What if there are an infinite number of infinities?"

Cantor showed that there are an infinite number of sizes of infinities.

69 posted on 10/10/2022 3:39:36 PM PDT by Carl Vehse (A proud member of the LGBFJB community)
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To: BEJ
Yes.

Define space.

No.

70 posted on 10/10/2022 3:44:40 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: BEJ; GOPJ
Don't bogart that joint, my friend. :^) Welcome to FR. The ex- is the important part.

71 posted on 10/11/2022 6:51:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: jacknhoo

Thanks. Reading that form is more perfect than matter reminds me of Platonism. That there is a hierarchy of perfection seems to be more Platonic than Aristotelian thought, which goes against the notion that Thomas Aquinas was influenced by Aristotle.


72 posted on 10/11/2022 7:23:32 AM PDT by BEJ
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To: SubMareener

Thanks for that info.


73 posted on 10/11/2022 7:25:03 AM PDT by BEJ
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To: aquila48

Good question!


74 posted on 10/11/2022 7:28:16 AM PDT by BEJ
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Good point. But eternal is also defined as infinite amount of time. Maybe that meaning is a metaphor a pale shade for us who live in a timed based dimension. As well, perhaps if eternity has infinite amounts of time it becomes timeless... like if everybody is important, then nobody is important.


75 posted on 10/11/2022 7:43:07 AM PDT by BEJ
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To: fella

Just read a good book on that, Stephan Meyer’s “The God Hypotheses.”


76 posted on 10/11/2022 9:13:15 AM PDT by BEJ
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To: chajin

Right. Aristotle says a similar thing about God: God is thought thinking thought.


77 posted on 10/11/2022 9:16:25 AM PDT by BEJ
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To: Mad Dawg

Good answer. It’s hard to think of something that doesn’t have extension. Our sense of being has extension in that we know where our being ends and something else begins. Extension implies limits and to think of God as limitless is hard to fathom. Even God as “thought thinking thought” seems to have limits in that one thought will be different from another thought.


78 posted on 10/11/2022 9:27:35 AM PDT by BEJ
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To: Mad Dawg

Yes the earth is spherical which means that we have to walk that conforms to the earth. But if you walk in space, you walk through space and don’t conform to anything. Or so I would have thought...


79 posted on 10/11/2022 9:34:12 AM PDT by BEJ
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To: dfwgator

LOL


80 posted on 10/11/2022 9:34:38 AM PDT by BEJ
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