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The Incentives to Get Workers Back to the Office Aren’t Working. Here’s What Would.
Slate ^ | September 26, 2022 | Alison Green

Posted on 10/06/2022 8:15:53 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tell It Right

I work for a Fortune 10 company. 45,000 global employees. My business unit of about 4,000 staying 100% remote. Sub leasing two huge offices. Opens up national recruitment. Less environmental impact and expenses. We’ve been remote since covid and no micro managing here. You do your job. They know who performs and who doesn’t. Culture is what you make it.


41 posted on 10/06/2022 8:56:18 AM PDT by nurees (Oh...there is a NEW Mexico (Homer Simpson))
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To: nurees

Yes this is another big advantage for companies that go 100% remote. They not only save on office space but their recruitment pool becomes the whole country instead of just those within commuting distance of their offices.


42 posted on 10/06/2022 8:59:08 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird
They not only save on office space but their recruitment pool becomes the whole country world.

People better start waking up to this fact.
43 posted on 10/06/2022 9:01:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Stop hiring activists and hire people who actually want to work!


44 posted on 10/06/2022 9:07:10 AM PDT by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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To: Penelope Dreadful

what are all those useless middle management people going to do???”

I find that there are large numbers of people who have been on continuous zoom calls pretending they are busy. The underlings are performing without them. A lot of time is being spent “filling these people in” only for nothing to be done about it, except pretending these issues don’t exist the next day and asking what is going on and asking for even more info to ignore.


45 posted on 10/06/2022 9:14:04 AM PDT by dgbrown
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To: kagnew

Hunger is a great motivator


46 posted on 10/06/2022 9:16:35 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: kagnew

That’s what we told our people and guess what…they all came back. Imagine that.


47 posted on 10/06/2022 9:16:40 AM PDT by Dave911
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Why would I go back to the office only to accomplish what I can in my home office? Most doors are closed with folks on calls or in meetings.

Demonstrate what culture actually exists in an office. If you don't know what you're team is working on because you don't hear keyboards tapping down the hall, you're a crappy manager.

And I'm not a millenial. Been working for 30 years and see little benefit for prescribed time in the office. And yes, I have a team of 100 dotted across the world.

48 posted on 10/06/2022 9:18:05 AM PDT by Solson (DeSantis/Hawley 2024!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Forget the incentives, if there’s a business essential case for working in the office they can get to the office or find another employer.

I’ve worked from home, long before it was fashion. These days the job I’m in can only be done in person. I am very flexible with people’s schedules but there are always people who think they have the upper hand when they don’t. I let them solve this problem themselves. People quit in clusters where I am and that’s ok because it’s usually the underperforming or problematic who follow that path.

They aren’t hurting me. I keep going. The team keeps going. There’s no choice.

49 posted on 10/06/2022 9:21:50 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Giant meteor 2022!!!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“Hunger is a great motivator”

Agreed.. Companies are starving for qualified employees.

They are being strangled when their top tier people are ordered to coming back to the office but instead opt to continue working from home and taking their knowledge, skills, relationships to their previous employer’s competition.


50 posted on 10/06/2022 9:22:56 AM PDT by uranium penguin
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Exactly. You won’t have to fire everyone...you’ll just have to fire one. Pick your lowest performer and make an example of them.

The rest will be at work at 0900 the next day.


51 posted on 10/06/2022 9:23:16 AM PDT by SharpenedEdge (Stockpile. Prepare. Arm. Train. A Storm is coming.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Are you a more effective employee if you come to work?

That depends on the job, and the employer is the one to decide if that is a requirement for the job.

In many cases the employer gains by not having to maintain office space for a worker. I think many customer service employees work from home.

An employer might perceive intangible reasons for having all employees in the same place.


52 posted on 10/06/2022 9:26:36 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Good grief. Really? Free coffee day?


53 posted on 10/06/2022 9:27:41 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: Tell It Right

cause Jr. engineers fresh out of college know it all and have nothing to learn from the oldhands... right?

now the oldhands can work from home alright, but then who trains the kids???


54 posted on 10/06/2022 9:28:22 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: FLT-bird; bk1000

You guys realize what’s going on here, right? We’ve all been treated like third-graders all our lives as if everyone is the same, and we get upset if someone has an advantage. The stupid rules are made because of the problem people. OK, Jimmy won’t behave so no one gets recess. Bringing that up to a very, very serious example, criminals use guns, so no one should have one.

If I had to go into an office for no good reason, I might think everyone should have to. It’s not necessary. If they tell me I have to go back in, I’ll probably quit. If that makes someone mad, I’m sorry. But, I’ll bet that if it makes someone mad, they are in a job they can’t afford to quit, or in a job that requires hands-on participation.

Incentive? Take half your office space and convert to inexpensive private family apartments. No commute, big perk for some.


55 posted on 10/06/2022 9:29:06 AM PDT by HeadOn (Love God. Lead your family. Be a man.)
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To: HeadOn

Personally, I don’t see where anyone who does their work on a computer should be required to do that work in an office outside of security reasons for sensitive data, or just required work not getting done or getting done in a sub par manner. If an employer insists on maintaining the twentieth century office there may be difficulties these days.


56 posted on 10/06/2022 9:36:19 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: Tell It Right

I was responding to the last sentence in your post. I was thinking that there are reasons other than a boss wanting to micromanage people , to require people to be in the office.


57 posted on 10/06/2022 9:36:32 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Chode
I've trained junior programmers online the past 2 years.

Again, it's about getting work done. If work can be done at home or office or wherever, get it done and keep your job. Don't get work done don't keep your job. The argument about office or no office isn't as important as getting the job done.

58 posted on 10/06/2022 9:37:01 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: uranium penguin

Well, let the market decide.


59 posted on 10/06/2022 9:40:59 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: bk1000

Agreed. I used to work for a world-wide company, and I ran a project that spanned 12 time zones, including hardware and software installation and day-to-day operations.

Successfully managed the whole thing from my cube. Could have easily done it from home, but that was before the plague, and everyone still went into the office.

Guys doing the installs? That’s hands-on, they had to be there. Folks monitoring operations, they had to be at the locations. But me? Didn’t matter.

JOBS ARE DIFFERENT!


60 posted on 10/06/2022 9:44:45 AM PDT by HeadOn (Love God. Lead your family. Be a man.)
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