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The Science of Why Electric Vehicle Batteries Are So Dangerous
Breitbart ^ | 29Sept | Nolan

Posted on 09/30/2022 12:46:26 AM PDT by qaz123

In a recent op-ed, the Washington Post outlines how Tesla’s battery issues and fires may not just be due to poor design and manufacturing but a side effect of electric vehicles relying on lithium-ion batteries.

The Washington Post reports in an op-ed titled “Tesla’s Big Batteries Aren’t the Fire Problem. Lithium Is,” that Americans should be questionubg whether lithium-ion powerpacks should be used for applications such as electric vehicles. The piece argues that the science of lithium-ion batteries make them inherently dangerous.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: automotive; battery; electric; ev; fire; gasolineneverburns; ohnoz; toxic
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To: BobL
Bosch is only against EVs because they make wiper blades.

EVs don't need wiper blades?

Not that Bosch doesn't have many other ICE related reasons for talking their book, but I don't think wiper blades is one of them.

41 posted on 09/30/2022 7:14:19 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“EVs don’t need wiper blades?”

Didn’t Musk say they had an app to replace their need?


42 posted on 09/30/2022 7:19:49 AM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 39 degrees (burrr))
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To: BobL

>>“EVs don’t need wiper blades?”

> Didn’t Musk say they had an app to replace their need?

I didn’t hear it. Bits don’t move water and slush.

You must be funnin’ me.


43 posted on 09/30/2022 7:21:22 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“You must be funnin’ me.”

Of course, but Bosch’s Icon Wiper Blades are OUTSTANDING! Nothing I’ve used comes close.


44 posted on 09/30/2022 7:24:18 AM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 39 degrees (burrr))
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To: Reaganez

> Gasoline cars blow up at 10x the rate of Tesla vehicles.

Not my Ford Pinto!


45 posted on 09/30/2022 7:33:09 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Ahithophel

thank you


46 posted on 09/30/2022 7:37:48 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Reaganez

“Gasoline cars blow up at 10x the rate of Tesla vehicles.”

You might have been correct except that you use the word ‘Rate’ is problematic.


47 posted on 09/30/2022 7:38:26 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: technically right

I’ve read an anecdote where enterprising firefighters pushed a burning EV into a swimming pool to save an adjacent structure. I don’t know if immersion in water has been attempted very often, but it was tried at least once.


48 posted on 09/30/2022 7:42:42 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Ken Regis

i believe one of the techniques to put out an EV fire is to submerge it in water


49 posted on 09/30/2022 7:43:46 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Tallguy
In Europe they use a crane and put them in dumpsters filled with water.


50 posted on 09/30/2022 7:45:07 AM PDT by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: qaz123

Porsches, Audis, Bentleys, Lamborghinis, maybe others.

Once the first EV gets going, there is no way to put out the fire short of dumping that car in the ocean. And once the fire spreads to the other EVs and gasoline powered cars, the whole load is destroyed.

The amount of smoke in that picture is way more than a single EV could produce.

The crew wasn’t worried about saving the cars. They wanted to save themselves.


51 posted on 09/30/2022 7:46:08 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Fox News is CNN-Lite.)
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To: qaz123

Gasoline can explode when a particular fuel-air mix is reached as can happen in a mostly empty gas can. But fuel systems of cars are designed deal with that, so mostly that doesn’t happen except when movie-makers want a spectacular visual special effect.

Parking a car with a hot catalytic converter over dry leaves? That’s another matter.


52 posted on 09/30/2022 7:46:24 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: nascarnation

“Insurance companies will decide on this problem as they accumulate more experience.”

... but probably not before there is a commercially available alternative.


53 posted on 09/30/2022 7:48:47 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: BobL
Bosch’s Icon Wiper Blades are OUTSTANDING! Nothing I’ve used comes close.

Thanks for the tip. I'll try and remember that.

54 posted on 09/30/2022 7:49:59 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Any time!


55 posted on 09/30/2022 7:52:23 AM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 39 degrees (burrr))
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To: nascarnation

Having seen that, you can bet that a lot of fire departments are going to have trailers built that can be towed to a reported car fire to replicate that very technique. FD’s are very quick to invest in equipment and training to address a perceived need.


56 posted on 09/30/2022 7:54:22 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Ikeon

Pixies fly out of Li-Ion batteries 5 times faster than any other chemistry.
Then they blow out your lungs.


57 posted on 09/30/2022 7:59:01 AM PDT by samiam5
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To: cranked

58 posted on 09/30/2022 8:01:29 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Tallguy

I seem to remember some Freeper on an earlier thread suggesting backing up a dump truck filled with sand to a flaming EV, and burying it in sand - sounded to me like it would be worth a try.

Not real sure how many fire departments have ready access to that approach, but who knows what the future holds.


59 posted on 09/30/2022 8:14:27 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: zeestephen

No film at 11:00 about hydrogen fuel cell car exploding it’s why they call them fuel cells.
It’s why race cars have them


60 posted on 09/30/2022 8:16:26 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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