Posted on 09/30/2022 12:46:26 AM PDT by qaz123
In a recent op-ed, the Washington Post outlines how Tesla’s battery issues and fires may not just be due to poor design and manufacturing but a side effect of electric vehicles relying on lithium-ion batteries.
The Washington Post reports in an op-ed titled “Tesla’s Big Batteries Aren’t the Fire Problem. Lithium Is,” that Americans should be questionubg whether lithium-ion powerpacks should be used for applications such as electric vehicles. The piece argues that the science of lithium-ion batteries make them inherently dangerous.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Thank you for your subject matter expertise.
Having actually done the job. There are a few on this site that might want read your comment a few times so it sinks in. Cars do not blow up.
Can an ICE-car catch fire? Absolutely. Possibly when there’s some type of leak(fuel line) and an ignition source. They DO NOT, however, just burst into flames while just sitting in a garage.
EVs, a different story.
“Bosch, recently warned the electric vehicle industry over its overreliance on a single fuel source — battery cells — as Europe’s energy crisis worsens.”
Bosch is only against EVs because they make wiper blades.
“If you had a EV and an ICE vehicle which would you have used to evacuate away from hurricane Ian this week?”
Providing that I had a generator with me, either.
“What’s comparative rate of spontaneous combustion (i.e., no collision or traffic accident) fires or blow ups occurring in gasoline cars vs. Tesla vehicles? “
Or lighting up spontaneously in a salvage yard, 3 weeks after an accident, as has been documented in at least one case.
“Can an ICE-car catch fire? Absolutely. Possibly when there’s some type of leak(fuel line) and an ignition source. They DO NOT, however, just burst into flames while just sitting in a garage.”
I’ve never seen a parking garage been a car before I ran across one saying Chevy Bolts (I think, maybe Volts, some EV) were prohibited.
Always look at what they say BEFORE the media gets their hands on it.
Thanks for that Elon.
How about explain how long it takes for a gasoline car to be put out when on fire as compared to EV battery powered cars?
It’s good to know that even within FR, we have progressive Greenies.......
You would not want to drive ANY vehicle through two feet of water unless it had a snorkel on it. Even an H1 Hummer could stall out in that much water without a snorkel.
It is ‘possible’ that by 2035 lithium will have been supplanted by a safer, higher-capacity and faster charging medium.
But 2 points:
1. If there are to be regulations on transport of ‘hazardous’ lithium batteries on commercial aircraft, there should be lawful statutes on the storage of vehicles containing the same, as well as their use which may endanger the public (think ‘electric buses’ etc.). Furthermore, insurance policies should have specific exclusions barring payout for anything related whatsoever to a charging fire from a lithium battery-powered EV AND/OR lithium power cells (home/solar/etc.).
2. Until such hypocrisy is bridged and sufficient motivation is placed behind finding a replacement for the ‘transitional’ lithium power sources - coupled with the inevitable replacement of lithium - any regulations pursuant to the emotional fraud referred to as ‘climate change’ will continue to manipulate markets in a way which will both punish the end users and destroy free market capitalism.
Think hard about the latter...
Insurance companies will decide on this problem as they accumulate more experience.
That’s a really good point.
You can’t put lithium battery’s in checked baggage, right?
Wasn’t there a certain phone that was banned from planes because they were causing fires?
But 1000s of them in your garage are okey dokey.
It’s only a matter of time before an EV spontaneously combusts in an underground parking garage in a major city. The thing burns for hours and spreads toxic smoke and residue throughout the facility.
Curious.
What happens when an EV gets flooded and batteries are under water?
Thrill seeking bomb riders want to know, as well. /s kekw
What about Tesla Mega Packs that went on fire and initiated a ‘shelter in place’ order for the area?
From the article...
The fire caused road closures and shelter-in-place orders for residents nearby.
Richard Stedman, an air pollution control officer for the Monterey Bay Air Resources District (MBARD) said in general lithium ion battery fires can emit toxic constituents like hydrochloric and hydrofluoric acid....awesome!!!
Since I don’t like to post some of my comments without some links, I found the above one to add. Underneath that one was this:
https://www.tesla.com/megapack
Safe by Design
Megapack is one of the safest battery storage products of its kind. Units undergo extensive fire testing and include integrated safety systems
except for these ones. The ones that caught on fire.
That was the ship full of Porsches or Audis, wasn’t it? They couldn’t find a place to tow it to or something like that.
Data and stats please...
Especially the parts about ICE vehicles exploding in your garage after shutdown...
It's like having gasoline-powered cars with the battery stored inside the gas tank.
Yes and anyone in many areas of Florida have an EV that will be useless for along time.
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