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Lying to Pollsters

Posted on 09/28/2022 10:10:13 AM PDT by tbewin

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To: Robert DeLong

That’s my point. People believed it and use the polls as evidence.


41 posted on 09/28/2022 10:37:23 AM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: tbewin

what makes you think this midterm will be close? the only thing dems have to run on is abortion and that’s not even in the top 5 of issues. the economy is going to dominate everything


42 posted on 09/28/2022 10:38:38 AM PDT by Jeff Vader ( )
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To: Boogieman

Yes it does...and Oz should play well in the Philly suburbs, but I’ve encountered at least half a dozen so called conservatives on this site who will not vote for Oz under any circumstances. It’s a bigger problem up there than you think.


43 posted on 09/28/2022 10:38:53 AM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: Jeff Vader

Gas prices have fallen in a big way and the average person believes that inflation will soon follow. People also believe the Inflation Reduction Act will help as well. I do not believe those things...the average voter does. Abortion is a WAY bigger issue than you think. Lastly, our candidates flat out suck this election cycle.


44 posted on 09/28/2022 10:41:21 AM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: tbewin

Gas prices are going up again. And Diesel has really never gone down.


45 posted on 09/28/2022 10:43:08 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: kaktuskid

I do see that. Not in all states but some. Isn’t that normal for this time of year before they fall again?


46 posted on 09/28/2022 10:44:14 AM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: tbewin

The situation so dire in this country you should vote for a dead dog if it has a R in front of it!


47 posted on 09/28/2022 10:44:45 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: tbewin

Polls are designed to do nothing more than shape public opinion.

Rarely are Republicans/conservatives contacted to participate in polls, so no need to lie.


48 posted on 09/28/2022 10:44:57 AM PDT by CodeJockey ("The duty of a true Patriot is to protect his country from its government.” –Thomas Paine)
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To: 2nd Amendment

I will! I chime in when I feel our side is doing something politically harmful to itself. The dialogue is helpful!


49 posted on 09/28/2022 10:45:39 AM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: tbewin

I agree. Republicans use polls all the time. Trump uses them as well. If people are lying then it makes it hard to create strategy and adjustments.

Even so, however, it looks like the polls are pretty accurate in elections where Trump is not a candidate.

It seems to me that Trump himself is able to get some votes from Hispanic or black people who might not participate in polls. And who knows, maybe some of them are lying. So while I wish people would not lie to pollsters, I doubt that many people actually are.

They did very well in 2018.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/upshot/polls-2018-midterms-accuracy.html

“It was a good year for polls. This time, they got the basic story of the election right: a Democratic House and a Republican Senate. And on average, the final polls were closer to the results than any election in a decade. Best of all, the polls were relatively unbiased, meaning that one party didn’t systematically overperform or underperform its final poll results.”

And Trump’s preferred pollster did poorly that year:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/08/politics/poll-of-the-week-trumps-favorite-pollster/index.html


50 posted on 09/28/2022 10:46:16 AM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: CodeJockey

You may have a point with that. If contacted by Trafalgar though...be truthful. There are pollsters that do the right thing.


51 posted on 09/28/2022 10:46:31 AM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: Fai Mao
If they know your telephone number they can get your address from the woke telephone provider. Better to lie or not answer the pollster than to have shoot down hordes of ANTIFA thugs attempting to storm your residence.

There is not one instance where anyone has alleged this happened. If it had, everyone would know about it.

52 posted on 09/28/2022 10:48:09 AM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: tbewin

Remember all the crybullies who said John Kerry should have won because the polls show he was more popular around the world?


53 posted on 09/28/2022 10:50:33 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: tbewin
I've not been polled in 30-40 years......

Polls ae stupid anyway.....

54 posted on 09/28/2022 10:51:23 AM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: Osage Orange

They’re not though. They are a very powerful tool!


55 posted on 09/28/2022 10:53:21 AM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: Organic Panic

I can care less what a poll in France says. I DO care when a poll shows my candidate down 12 in my state and big donors write the race off as unwinnable. Self fulfilling prophecy!


56 posted on 09/28/2022 10:54:22 AM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: tbewin
That POTUS election was STOLEN...

Ponder that.

57 posted on 09/28/2022 10:55:20 AM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: tbewin

Polls aren’t designed to reflect what the public is interested in. Now they are all designed to influence the outcomes. The media are slime.


58 posted on 09/28/2022 10:55:28 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: tbewin

Why? Why should the establishment Republicans think I go along with them? I tell callers from the National Republican Whatevers the same thing: You have sold us out so many times, you will never get another nickel of my money. You want my money, go talk to the NRA, because that’s where it’s going.

My Congressman is Dr. Michael Burgess. I don’t think he is a heavyweight conservative, but he is an honest, caring individual, and he won’t kill babies, so I do support him. But I doubt a pollster has ever been that specific.


59 posted on 09/28/2022 10:55:56 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Osage Orange

People believe the polls were correct and that the election was legit because of those very polls. Ponder...whatever.


60 posted on 09/28/2022 10:59:03 AM PDT by tbewin ( )
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