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To: Robert DeLong
The argument you're using is essentially the exact same one as is used by the Defund the Police movement. Because cops fail to prevent a lot of crimes, and because they sometimes engage in abuse, we should eliminate them.

One of the problems with that is that there are many things cops do that have a positive impact even if they don't make headlines. And their mere existence acts as a deterrent as well.

Both the CIA and FBI clearly have major issues with politicization, and need to be cleaned up. But simply eliminating them both is essentially sending an engraved to those who would do us harm that there is nobody left who could possibly detect anything they try to do. It would be like leaving the door to a jewelry store open and unlocked every night.

Fix them. Don't eliminate them.

33 posted on 09/26/2022 7:06:58 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
But the major difference is that I do the the wins that the police departments achieve. Because they do not operate in secrecy. Unfortunately, because the CIA does operate in such secrecy there is no fixing the CIA. You cannot fix what you have no power over.

BTW, they make the same claims that you are making. Many people are no longer buying that scare tactic. Probably because many people are now becoming the target of their secrecy and will not tolerate being labeled the problem, when they are not the problem. Same goes for the FBI.

Does it mean we may sacrifice some safety for freedom? Quite possibly, but if this is an either or choice, I choose freedom over safety. We can always construct new entities that increase the security aspects.

34 posted on 09/26/2022 7:23:10 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
You would do well to listen to Italy's new Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni. Maybe then you will begin to understand where people are coming from:

I’ve never heard any politician so perfectly explain what we’re up against and why we fight.

37 posted on 09/26/2022 8:23:37 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
FBI Whistleblower: The Enemy Within

In this exclusive interview, Turning Point USA sits down with former FBI Special Agent, John Guandolo. This crucial conversation sheds light on the undiscussed network of jihadists and communists that have worked together to undermine America at its root for decades. From 9/11, to the Las Vegas shooting, to January 6, the Mar-a-Lago raid, Ray Epps, and the NSA – John tells truths that American intelligence agencies have long sought to deprive every American citizen of.

For years, Americans have failed to realize that our greatest enemy has not been an ocean away. Our adversaries are HERE on American soil - present within our institutions - and advising those who are sworn to represent us throughout the highest levels of our federal government. The most important battle being waged today is taking place WITHIN our intelligence agencies. The tyranny running rampant throughout the federal government cannot persist against the truth, which makes this a message they DON’T want you to hear.

41 posted on 09/26/2022 5:40:05 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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