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CIA doctor hit by Havana syndrome says he was in 'disbelief' as he suffered what he was investigating
cnn ^ | 9/25/2022 | lillis

Posted on 09/25/2022 12:26:43 PM PDT by RummyChick

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To: RummyChick

Even the few Secrets that I was made privy to would amaze people.


21 posted on 09/25/2022 8:51:50 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: higgmeister

I had a project where the client wanted to look behind a tunnel wall and determine the locations of wooden pillars inside of the tunnel 10 feet or more behind the wall.

Ground penetrating radar would probably work if the pillars are adjacent to the wall, but not 10 feet away. So I called a guy that was (RIP) an expert in this type of thing.

“Yeah - that’s a tough one. Nothing on the market will do it I don’t think. The government could do it easily enough.”

He did R&D with the government on certain things so I just took him at his word and didn’t press the subject.


22 posted on 09/25/2022 9:03:25 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: DesertRhino

Nueroimaging suggests that in some (many) cases there is a there there.

https://www.pennmedicine.org/news/news-releases/2019/july/advanced-neuroimaging-brain-matter-alterations-gov-personnel-developed-neurological-symptoms-cuba


23 posted on 09/26/2022 7:17:06 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg

If you look up targeted individuals there are thousands of cases in the us of citizens saying they are having these weapons used on them. Some are obvious schizos... but are they all?


24 posted on 09/26/2022 9:30:18 AM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: willyd

One of my big issues with “science” is the refusal to accept anecdotal data points as allowable evidence.

This is an insane way of viewing the world imho.

We cannot learn by ignoring what is in front of our face while we stare at telescopes or microscopes or other “scopes”.

We also cannot learn by claiming that anyone proclaiming anything unusual is “insane” or “delusional”.


25 posted on 09/26/2022 10:19:35 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: proust

I agree. Definitely a disinformation channel.


26 posted on 09/26/2022 10:48:06 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Romans 12:12)
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To: cgbg

I am a good example of this..and why I blow off posters who say it can’t possibly be real.

My perseverance and refusal to accept the medical paradigm way of doing things finally lead to the discovery that I have a rare autoimmune antibody. It took a lot of luck, my DNA, and a Dr who was willing to order the tests I was looking for.

That said, medicine doesn’t know much about the disease I have so I am on my own to play around to see what works. As my Dr said...nothing may work...it is up to my body if it wants to go hog wild

And forget about it if you have a mast cell disease..as someone here does. Getting to the right people on that is a joke


27 posted on 09/26/2022 10:50:12 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: willyd

I have a family member that was on the schizo scale. Supposedly it was triggered in the military and he received disability. I have definite DNA that makes me susceptible but was never triggered.

I even have DNA that has been shown to cause people to go nuts later in life if they have early trauma. Of course, these studies are hard to prove definitively.

What I am getting at here is if I was a Mad Scientist delving into things like the CIA MK Ultra program or anything devious such as that....I would look at how to trigger those mentally ill genes.


28 posted on 09/26/2022 10:58:05 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Slightly off topic—but I think the Democratic ranting against Trump supporters (false accusations of every imaginable type) is an attempt to “trigger” a hostile/violent reactions from borderline personalities on the right.

For “normal” folks the Democratic rants come across as bizarre and kooky—so “normal” folks cannot be the target audience.


29 posted on 09/26/2022 12:11:06 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: hecticskeptic

#1!


30 posted on 09/26/2022 3:59:35 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Anyone, who can make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.!" ~ (Voltaire)!, )
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