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"Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults" Book by Jacques Vallée (pdf and other formats
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Posted on 09/20/2022 3:40:31 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

This book can be downloaded for free from various sources linked herein.

I am currently reading this book and thought some of you who follow this topic my enjoy it. It was first published in 1979.

I am not even halfway through it but find it very interesting. Vallee (in this book at least) takes a very scientific approach to the subject and (at least as far as I have read so far) is quite skeptical of the various UFO accounts.

His conclusions (so far...) are that, yes, there is something going on, there is an intelligence behind it, that intelligence might or might not be some nefarious human group, the intelligence behind it cannot keep its stories straight (nothing but lies), and there seems to be a method to the madness of whatever intelligence is behind the UFO encounters (that is, it seems to be directing its victims toward certain ways of thinking about reality, life, the planet, and, of course, the occupants of these so-called UFOs).

Sources for download:

Archives.org - Messengers of Deception

pdf format: Messengers of Deception


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: fringe; jacquesvallee; ohsomysteriouso; ufo; ufos
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1 posted on 09/20/2022 3:40:31 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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Author: Jacques Fabrice Vallée (French: [vale]; born September 24, 1939) is an Internet pioneer, computer scientist, venture capitalist, author, ufologist and astronomer currently residing in San Francisco, California and Paris, France.

His scientific career began as a professional astronomer at the Paris Observatory. Vallée co-developed the first computerized map of Mars for NASA in 1963. He later worked on the network information center for the ARPANET, a precursor to the modern Internet, as a staff engineer of SRI International's Augmentation Research Center under Douglas Engelbart.

Vallée is also an important figure in the study of unidentified flying objects (UFOs), first noted for a defense of the scientific legitimacy of the extraterrestrial hypothesis and later for promoting the interdimensional hypothesis.

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2 posted on 09/20/2022 3:44:05 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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I approve of that content.

Soon we will be holding hands with aliens in a circle and singing cosmic Kum by heah!

If you see an alien, shoot it and lay it out on a public table.No its not murder, because its not homicide).

Nothing like a rejection of indoctrination into a passive way of tought, whichi generally is bad for your health in the face pf a government weaponized against the People. The only genuine aliena I know are Nancy Pelosi, Barrack Obama, and Joe Biden, a fake presidential puppet who may now be the host for an alien body snatcher.


3 posted on 09/20/2022 3:49:54 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: RoosterRedux

It could be as simple as demon manifestations.


4 posted on 09/20/2022 3:55:18 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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Side Note: I think Vallee has changed his opinion quite a bit since the publication of this book. He appears to have come to the general conclusion that whatever the occupants of the UFOs are, they are not human and are not "space aliens."

He appears to think that they are related somehow to consciousness itself, possibly material beings at times and immaterial at others, possibly from a parallel dimension.

In at least one other book, he proposed the hypothesis that they (the occupants) are in some way related to various figures (mythological and otherwise) in our past (like elves, fairies, monsters, demons, etc.).

The consistent theme I find through Vallee's books is that these beings (whatever they are) are liars and tricksters.

5 posted on 09/20/2022 3:57:03 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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I suggest that demon manifestation may not be simple at all, but incredibly complex. Complex enough to destroy the human paradigm.

In fact, complex enough for these "demons" to turn our reality upside down and claim the God of the Bible is fiction and they are our "real" creators.

Some "contactees" have reported that these creatures have said "we are here...and your God is not." Who ya gonna believe?

6 posted on 09/20/2022 4:04:27 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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Yep

I seem to recall that a few who claimed “encounters” said they felt they were in the presence of ...... evil.

Hmmm.......


7 posted on 09/20/2022 4:06:52 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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Get this man—Candor7—a cup of coffee...or 3.;-)


8 posted on 09/20/2022 4:07:47 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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In Whitley Strieber's book, Communion, he described his first encounter as being in the presence of demons...and he was very emphatic about that.

He has since changed his tune to say that these "beings" are friends of a sort. He sounds like a rather typical sufferer of Stockholm Syndrome lately.

9 posted on 09/20/2022 4:10:35 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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10 posted on 09/20/2022 4:11:33 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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Heheh. First belly laugh of the day.;-)


11 posted on 09/20/2022 4:12:18 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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From a Biblical perspective that is the only explanation. Unless one believes they are natural phenomena, which is not plausible. The idea that they are secret government tech is also not believable.


12 posted on 09/20/2022 4:14:15 AM PDT by lasereye ( )
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The idea that they are secret government tech is also not believable.

Agreed. Accounts of these "encounters" are much too frequent, much too spread out (all over the world), have gone on for much too long, and are much too complex...to be secret government tech or a combination government/civilian conditioning program.

13 posted on 09/20/2022 4:23:17 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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ping


14 posted on 09/20/2022 4:31:10 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: lasereye

I believe in the possibility of there being other creations in the universe.

But I also believe that our planet is in quarantine until the sin issue is fully concluded.


15 posted on 09/20/2022 4:32:31 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Some men want to see the world burn. It is they that want you to buy an electric car.)
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From "Messengers of Deception" page 20:
I propose: that the UFO we see is, among other things, a device which creates a distortion of the witness's reality; that it does so for a purpose, which is to project images or fabricated scenes designed to change our belief systems; and that the technology we observe is only the incidental support for a worldwide enterprise of "subliminal seduction."

16 posted on 09/20/2022 4:37:56 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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Let me see if I can clarify that a big. I didn’t mean demons and demonic deception is simple. I just mean demonic deception is the easiest explanation for UFOs. I don’t doubt these “entities,” have said “we are here and your God is not.” I think the most sure fire way of knowing who they are, is to ark then if Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. They might become extremely uncomfortable with that question.


17 posted on 09/20/2022 5:30:17 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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If they did come, I don’t think you’re going to see them react to such a question.

It would be too easy of a giveaway if they were somehow bound to the question.

I think they can affirm any question they want, because they are playing a role.


18 posted on 09/20/2022 5:33:35 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Some men want to see the world burn. It is they that want you to buy an electric car.)
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To: Mark17

Yes. Well put.


19 posted on 09/20/2022 5:34:48 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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Does a spider being poked with a stick by a child understand that the child lives in a completely different reality than he does? Does the spider understand and reflect on the human reality or does he only concern himself with the dimension he lives in? The spider has no way to understand anything beyond the “stick” - a threat? An obstacle? -

I propose that the stick wielded by the child is the physical manifestation of a parallel consciousness insinuating itself into the spider’s simple “reality” The stick is the UAP and behind the stick is the consciousness of some kind of ultra terrestrial that our understanding of physics cannot explain presently.

Many try to make sense of the UAP phenomena by assuming the “stick” comes from some kind of far off planet like this one but populated by advanced “little green men” As well, many say, impossible! the distances are far too great to think extra terrestrial beings could travel here like some great cosmic road trip.

I don’t think these “objects” travel anywhere other than through the invisible membrane between dimensions existing side by side in the ether.

20 posted on 09/20/2022 5:38:33 AM PDT by atc23 (The Matriarchal Society we embrace has led to masks and mandates and the cult of "safety")
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