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Weekly Garden Thread - September 17-23, 2022 ['You Are The Apple of My Pie' Edition]
September 17, 2022 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 09/17/2022 6:15:27 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: numberonepal

Ok, but I am a teetotaller. I don’t drink. 🙂
They are very easy to make, I make the filling then fill up 4 halves at a time and bake them. The filling keeps just fine in the fridge. Hubby doesn’t care for them so I get them all to myself. The giant jalapeños work the best.


101 posted on 09/22/2022 3:04:40 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: MomwithHope
Hubby doesn’t care for them so I get them all to myself.

Well I hope he doesn't have to eat them someday because there's nothing else. It's always a treat to eat what you grow for sure.

102 posted on 09/22/2022 6:29:55 PM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

First, the ‘admission’ ...yes, I’m on Fakebook, but I only have family for ‘friends’ (and one pastor). I put up with it because that’s the only way I see pics of my great-nieces/nephews growing up. I also use ‘FBP’ (FaceBook Purity) that lets me see only what I want to see - no ads, etc. I would quit in a minute of the nieces/nephews would switch to Me/We, but all their friends are on FB.

That being said, I do follow a few pages and one of the most recent is “The Heirloom Gardener - Jon Forti”. He posts the most interesting things and I often share them with the family. He has a book out & if you read the reviews on Amazon, it’s a really good book. Here’s a link:

https://www.amazon.com/Heirloom-Gardener-Traditional-Plants-Skills/dp/1604699930/ref=sr_1_1

Some reviews:

“Forti aims to encourage people to connect with the land and plants, providing inspiration through his experiences and reflections. Forti’s work as a historical gardener informs his approach, which is enhanced by the beautiful wood block print artwork that accompanies each essay and illustrates key ideas throughout the book.” —Booklist

“Social history, botany and home economics merge in a fascinating book to dip in and out of.” —The English Garden

“Interesting information about horticultural practices, skills, and crafts that shouldn’t be lost over time.” —The Washington Gardener

“I know that I will dig into this book again and again to be touched, to be reminded of the many ways we can live lightly on the earth and in community – and eat well.” —Garden Arts

“Part essay collection, part gardening guide, The Heirloom Gardener encourages readers to embrace heirloom seeds and traditions, serving as a well-needed reminder to slow down and reconnect with nature.” —Modern Farmer

“Garden historian John Forti eloquently shares his passion for heirloom plants, historic garden techniques, and traditional crafts…this book is sure to delight anyone interested in garden history and learning how to enjoy the fruits of the garden.” –The American Gardener

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The customer comments are even better - people really love this book! Just a few ...

I love it. Perfect book to add to anyone’s collection, no matter what your interests are. The illustrations are gorgeous and the cover is attractive; I’ve bought several to give away as gifts. I highly recommend, you won’t regret this purchase.

I had a hard time putting this down. Read it a second time. Great book from an inspiring soul.

This is a great book for everyone to add to their collection. Great information in a fantastic format. Buy 2, you’ll want to keep a copy for yourself if you’re planning to give someone else a wonderful gift!

This has so much useful information in it, I absolutely LOVE this book. I’m reading it slowly, which is easy to do because it gives you nuggets of wisdom in small doses. Highly highly recommend!

Love this book! It’s inspiring me to update my garden with heirlooms and embrace plants and skills from the olden days in modern times. Each chapter is its own artfully crafted story.

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I have one good/special friend that I exchange gifts with - always looking for something special for her birthday (November) & Christmas. Usually I make her something, but this year, for her birthday, I think I’m going to get her this book - I’m also going to buy a used copy for myself! It sounds like perfect reading for the winter, when collecting ideas for that next spring garden!


103 posted on 09/23/2022 5:52:10 AM PDT by Qiviut (The unvaccinated, the chosen of the invisible ark .... (author unknown))
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To: MomwithHope; Diana in Wisconsin

Holy Hill!

Diana is reminding everyone that Wisconsin is not just Scenery, Football and Golf, and Sheboygan Brats!


104 posted on 09/23/2022 6:37:58 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Qiviut

Book Reviews are always welcome. I plan on doing a few book review posts during our ‘down time’ this late fall and winter.

Definitely checking this one out! :)


105 posted on 09/23/2022 6:38:45 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

“Diana is reminding everyone that Wisconsin is not just Scenery, Football and Golf, and Sheboygan Brats!”

You forgot Cows outnumbering people, award-winning Cheese and lots of craft Beer. Our Wineries are pretty fantastic, too! :)


106 posted on 09/23/2022 6:41:20 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Qiviut

These two ladies and their reviews caught my eye. Madison used to have a ‘Chez Panisse’ and it was AWESOME. Not sure why it went out of business. It was pretty pricey, but well worth it. My BFFs of 40+ years and I used to go there at least once a year.

I’ve sold dozens of the Sharon Lovejoy books for children at the garden center. Your little Nieces would really like ‘Sunflower Houses’ and ‘Roots, Shoots, Buckets and Boots.’ Really nice illustrations, too.

“The Heirloom Gardener empowers readers with a toolkit of traditional and sustainable practices for an emerging artisanal crafts movement, and a brighter future.” —Alice Waters, chef and owner, Chez Panisse; founder, The Edible Schoolyard Project

“Follow John Forti down the garden pathway to the deepest roots of plant lore, food ways, herbal traditions, and living in green harmony on this fragile earth.” —Sharon Lovejoy, author of Sunflower Houses; Roots, Shoots, Buckets and Boots; and Trowel and Error


107 posted on 09/23/2022 6:47:49 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Well...my link gives the current forecast in case anyone is checking!


108 posted on 09/23/2022 6:54:54 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Augie

Well, I expect that you are off to FL now! Your corn should be ready when you get back! I used to take either MO Hwy 13 or US 65 to go see my parents in Mtn Home when they were alive. Wheatland is somewhere right between them.

Have a great trip!


109 posted on 09/23/2022 6:58:58 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Ha! Good morning Diana from the Wisconsin Department of Tourism! :)

Cheese and lots of craft Beer! Naturlich! Selbst verstandlich !

Today Rain on the KS/MO border with a high of 63! 99 Degrees one day, then Autumn with a 45 degree drop! Like you, enough summer to finish out the tomatoes and a nice couple months for the Kohl Crops!

110 posted on 09/23/2022 7:19:37 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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111 posted on 09/23/2022 8:26:53 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

It’s beautiful inside and we actually know the Prior.


112 posted on 09/23/2022 8:54:01 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Yep! Hit those brakes! I am taking advantage of the change to cooler growing conditions!

(End of the thread so good place to post!)

Cabbage is one of those cheap vegatables that its usually easier to let other people grow, but this year I decided to give it a try, and given how things are going economically I am glad I did!

Since cabbage looper butterflies are still fluttering around (at least here in Z 6b!) and for the start of cool nights, some low tunnel protection: (I put hardware cloth at ends for ventilation on warm days, Rosemary standing watch to confuse the flutterbys!)

September 3rd, planted in the low tunnel: (Groniger and Red Rubine Brussel sprouts left; Fareo and Red Express cabbages to the right (the Sun Side of the bed))

September 21st same plants....The Cabbages are 65 days to maturity...The sprouts 95 to 105....I expect the B Sprouts to get tall enough to get up above the cabbage before they spread out too much....

Amaranth-Brussel-Sprouts-and-Cabbage Planted a few days later: (Chinese Amaranth; Hybrid Kaitlin Cabbage (90-120 days) same B. Sprouts as before)

Lettuce hanging out in a low tunnel! (Lolla de Rossa, Flame, and Winter Density!) I planted some beets inbetween the rows and its starting to come up!

Kohl Crop Variety info:

GRONINGER BRUSSELS SPROUT SEEDS ORGANIC & BIODYNAMIC An old Belgian landrace that produces sweet green sprouts. Sprouts are somewhat variable in size and shape, with some sprouts refusing to head and looking very much like the patented "kalette".

RUBINE is an early producing, open-pollinated, heirloom variety of Brussels sprout that's most noted for the beautiful purple-red color of its sprouts and foliage. Staying about 2′ tall, plants make an attractive border for gardens and also reward you with a good yield of 1-1.5″ round, nutty-tasting purple sprouts.

FARAO is a hybrid green cabbage of the ballhead form, meaning it forms a tight head of dense leaves. The leaves are a pretty, deep green and the heads grow to about 3 or 4 pounds (1-2 kg.). In addition to the compact head, Farao grows a generous layer of looser, protective outer leaves. The flavor of Farao cabbage plants is mild and peppery.

RED EXPRESS CABBAGE: Description The first early open pollinated cabbage to be released in years. A small, compact plant with dense, solid, oval heads that are dark red in color. Heads are 2-4 pounds with good flavor. Great for salads. Ideal for northern climates, but is successful anywhere. . Very flavorful. Excellent for coleslaw, stir fry, and salads. Cuts your growing time in half compared to full-season varieties. Split resistant.

KAITLIN CABBAGE is a large, late-season cabbage that produces a high-quality, high dry-matter white cabbage for sauerkraut. It is a mid-term storage cabbage that will store well until December or January. Kaitlin's interior remains quite white, not green, after storage. Avg. weight: 8-12 lb. High resistance to Fusarium yellows.

I use drip irrigation; cabbage likes moist soil. I had some reflecting mulch which I decided to use here; I Fertilized when planted at the end of August; I fertilized again last week. I am going to fertilize again with fish emulsion and kelp and Sea90 minerals in about 5 days. Normally my cabbage is riddled with loopers, but I have not had a problem since using the garden fabric low tunnel!

Yah, garden fabric is a good product, and not that expensive. I got tired of trying of using hoops and anchoring it, and decided to use fencing instead. Works well in my small garden!.

113 posted on 09/23/2022 10:06:48 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: MomwithHope
MwH Thanks! Interesting! For anyone interested here is a link:

Holy Hill Basilica

(Off Highway 41 NW of Milwaukee: Not a slide since Diana brought it up!)

114 posted on 09/23/2022 11:11:58 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’m always looking for good books for the girls ... I’ll check those out ... thanks!


115 posted on 09/23/2022 12:21:47 PM PDT by Qiviut (The unvaccinated, the chosen of the invisible ark .... (author unknown))
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

THIS is our topic for today! Can you C&P this and add it once I get the new thread up? I’m working on it now.

GMTA! :) Everything looks great!


116 posted on 09/24/2022 6:09:59 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: numberonepal
NOP; If correct, looks like you will get some rain for your crop and hopefully avoid a massive storm surge! (Not good for the panhandle tho!)

Tropical Storm Ian

117 posted on 09/25/2022 9:21:32 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

My concern is salt water in the air from sustained tropical force winds. That’s not good for a vegetable garden. You know how when you park your car at the beach and that salt gets on your windshield? It’s like that, but on plants. Hoping for the best, but certainly being taught a lesson. There were other signs like seedlings popping up from the ground all happy and then dead in two days because it’s so f’in hot! Yet I continue to plant.


118 posted on 09/25/2022 2:43:22 PM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Oh, and surge will be a concern with the southwest wind piling up Gulf water into Tampa Bay. How close the storm gets to the coast will determine the amount of flooding. I’m actually kind of curiously excited to see how the new infrastructure on the barrier island handles the water. The new infrastructure that killed probably 100 cars (mine included) in our neighborhood. It better be worth it.


119 posted on 09/25/2022 2:46:58 PM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: numberonepal
Okra, Peppers, Tomatoes, Sweet potatoes are a good heat tolerant vegetables. Salt is another thing.....Diana or one of the others might be able to help with that question! I guess if you put boards 2x4x down next to your corn and covered them with plastic and anchored that down to keep it from blowing away your corn might have a chance!

Good luck!


120 posted on 09/25/2022 4:56:06 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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