Posted on 09/13/2022 7:06:45 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
In June, Tesla CEO Elon Musk demanded that all employees return to their onsite workspaces, according to a leaked e-mail thread. If workers refused, Musk would consider it a resignation.
Again the news today is that the NY Times can't get people back to work. However, I won't post the link.
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Is this the death of office romances?
Axin’ for a friend...
I think that middle management is where late-in-career people want to be, as continually keeping fresh on technical skills can be wearying when one needs stay a top performer.
-PJ
“In my estimation, about 15-20% of people can be trusted to work hard from home.”
Stupid managers are unable to figure out how to manage and motivate remote workers.
Smart managers get it done.
If your statement is true then that means that most managers are stupid.
That is the company’s problem—they need to get new managers.
They don’t hide it, but in the collaboration with the media, they ensure nobody sees it but lonely voices such as ours who might seek it out.
HQ was happy to take anyone who was willing to go there—employees, team leaders, managers whatever.
Most folks wanted nothing to do with it.
;-)
Nothing to do with being socially awkward. Has everything to do with efficiency. For a lot of tech jobs a commute to an office to sit at a desk is such a waste of time and money.
I agree. My kids generation wants to be able to work from home at least part of the week. My company recognized this and went to a 3 & 2 model. 3 days in the office one week, 2 days the next week. We are a massive company and it has allowed us to consolidate dozens of facilities and plants by rotating workers, which has saved millions of dollars.
I like the flexible schedule but I travel a lot so I wasn’t in the office all the time before covid. When I am in, I see just as much wasted time as people claim working from creates. Ultimately, the market will have the final say.
The problem is that most managers are older people and most workers are younger people.
Younger people see no reason why they have to drive to an office to do the same work they can do anywhere else in the world. All so some old fart can harass them all day long and dictate when they can and can’t go to the bathroom.
HR and Legal departments are starting to side with the work from home crowd because there’s very few sexual harassment, hostile workplace, and hazardous workplace lawsuits when you don’t have so many people in the office to begin with.
Then there’s the fact that companies can save massive amounts of money on real estate and rent and put that money to the bottom line.
This is why the people here claim they can work better from home. 99% of people cannot work better at home.
The real reason is they like to not have to go to work and spend all day away from home.
I get it, but YOU know, that its all a lie. You do NOT work better at home.
I work in tech. Most of the people that refuse to come in are borderline anti-social types. Most of them fear public speaking or face to face interactions with customers. That doesn’t mean they are without value, but I can find a lot of people like that in cheaper areas than some live now because they took the job that was where they lived.
No need to pay urban US prices for remote work, when I can find people much cheaper for remote work. Part of the reason they were hired was because of proximity to the office. If they want to break that bond, then I can look anywhere in the world.
The fascinating thing that happened with the HQ—work in the office, Field—remote work approach was that the field kept getting more and more talented folks and HQ slowly degraded.
These days quality of life is a big deal for most workers.
So—the HQ folks had the fancy titles and low quality of life, while the field folks had the talent and knowledge.
What happened was when difficult challenges were faced the Field folks created virtual teams to address them—and just let HQ know after the problem was solved.
We (field people) were very careful not to “rub HQ’s noses in it”—let them pretend they were the important people in the organization (and they did have the big salaries and titles).
It was truly a win win.
You joke, but it is true. People fake working from home driving all around town at all hours doing whatever they want because they don’t have to go to an office.
-PJ
I turned down many promotions in my working life (now retired)—and I am convinced I made the right call every time.
I enjoyed being the SME (subject matter expert) that the big bosses had to call when they got in over their heads.
;-)
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One little tip that we found out about remote work (and eventually folks will figure it out)....
If you pay roughly the same salaries for similar work around the country, then you will get your best workers from low cost of living areas.
The reason for this is that you actually paying them a much higher “real” salary than if they lived in high cost areas.
This was one of the “secrets” that we didn’t tell HQ (in a high cost area) about....
While technically their salaries were a lot higher than ours their cost of living was much higher than ours so that our “real” earnings in many cases were above theirs.
Didn't Jeffrey Toobin find a solution? Albeit a poor one.
If the job could have been outsourced to overseas, it would have been done decades ago.
A lot of companies that though they could undercut workers got exactly what they paid for; low talent and less control.
I work with companies that are "insourcing"; hiring from within the United States but in an expanded area to get more talent at a reasonable price. Very few new hires are from expensive urban areas. I work with several professionals who didn't renew expensive apartment leases and instead moved farther away to where rents were more affordable, even willing to forego raises during high inflation to help their companies win contracts.
I'm serious, that's what the people in my office do, the ones that WFH.
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