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1 posted on 08/28/2022 5:27:23 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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And collectivism always involves tyranny. The communists hated the fascists even though they were not far apart on the political spectrum. When you hear someone calling a liberty-minded person a fascist, you can bet it is a communism-believer doing the shouting.


2 posted on 08/28/2022 5:27:58 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Real fascism is a philosophy that fits under the Collectivist umbrella and therefore belongs to the Left. The key problem with fascism, for the communists, is that fascism is a nationalist philosophy. The dominant form of communism today is internationalist or Globalists. Then get irate when they see anyone promote nationalism.

Trump is no fascist. But he is a patriot. He is a nationalist. This drives the Globalists insane and makes then default to their traditional insult of “Fascist!”


3 posted on 08/28/2022 5:41:04 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. )
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To: MtnClimber

Seems the old definition of fascism is slightly different than the twenty or so new definitions found on the internet. Looking for my 1950’s era funk & wagnall’s now for a definition closer to the founder’s version. Mussolini started fascism, named it and imposed it. Not so sure the Italians liked it much but who knows. Just my 2.


4 posted on 08/28/2022 5:42:20 AM PDT by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" LStar)
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From my FR profile page, where it has been for ~15 years:

Although our modern socialists’ promise of greater freedom is genuine and sincere, in recent years observer after observer has been impressed by the unforeseen consequences of socialism, the extraordinary similarity in many respects of the conditions under “communism” and “fascism.” As the writer Peter Drucker expressed it in 1939, “the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of un-freedom and inequality which Germany has been following. Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany.”

No less significant is the intellectual outlook of the rank and file in the communist and fascist movements in Germany before 1933. The relative ease with which a young communist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa was well known, best of all to the propagandists of the two parties. The communists and Nazis clashed more frequently with each other than with other parties simply because they competed for the same type of mind and reserved for each other the hatred of the heretic. Their practice showed how closely they are related. To both, the real enemy, the man with whom they had nothing in common, was the liberal of the old type. While to the Nazi the communist and to the communist the Nazi, and to both the socialist, are potential recruits made of the right timber, they both know that there can be no compromise between them and those who really believe in individual freedom.

— F.A. Hayek, The Road to Serfdom


5 posted on 08/28/2022 5:46:55 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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“The hard truth is there are just two primary political ideologies: individualism and collectivism.”

I can think of another, but I don’t think it has a name: “gives me what you got, because I wants it”. It’s an ideology common among toddlers, thieves, cult founders, and leaders of political movements. It’s followed by many who pretend to be collectivists, and some that pretend to be individualists.


6 posted on 08/28/2022 5:52:15 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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“Sure we’ll have Fascism here, but it will come as an anti-Fascism movement.”

- Huey Long

(my tagline)


7 posted on 08/28/2022 6:00:29 AM PDT by cockroach_magoo (“Sure we’ll have Fascism here, but it will come as an anti-Fascism movement.”  - Huey Long)
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To: MtnClimber

Write off the fascism charge as the ravings of a senile lunatic. Attack! Attack!

Trying to explain fascism to a bunch of chattering monkeys is a waste of time.


8 posted on 08/28/2022 6:09:34 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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Nazism fascism, communism. Two wings of the same buzzard.

“Controversial problems [between Germany and Russia] did not, in my opinion, exist anywhere along the line from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea and to the Far East. In addition, despite all the divergencies in their views of life, there was one thing common to the ideology of Germany, Italy and the Soviet Union: opposition to the capitalist democracies in the West.”—Julius Schnurre, Nazi trade rep to Russia.

Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by Shirer. Page 501 in my copy,


14 posted on 08/28/2022 7:29:54 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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It’s goofy and demented - very Stalinists to dehumanize political enemies like President Retard and his buddies do.

Maybe the Libtard party should be outlawed like the nazis in Germany


18 posted on 08/28/2022 8:52:18 AM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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Was anyone surprised that the august head of the party of projection said the MAGA movement is "like semi-fascism"?

He's trying to normalize it.

First: "Like" "semi"-fascism.

Next: "Like fascism."

Finally: "Fascism!"

Regards,

19 posted on 08/28/2022 9:22:57 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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