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'Ailing' Putin is flailing over his war strategy and torn between using nuclear weapons or admitting defeat and handing back invaded Ukrainian regions, claims Telegram channel
Daily Mail ^ | 8/21/2022 | Will Stewart

Posted on 08/21/2022 12:20:20 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

An ailing Vladimir Putin is flailing over his war strategy, torn between using nuclear weapons and accepting defeat and handing back Ukrainian regions invaded by his forces, a Telegram channel claims.

Amid fresh concerns over his health, his security officials have bluntly told the warmonger president that he has run out of 'good' options.

This comes as the death toll in the Russian armed forces plus separatist fighters and pro-Putin private armies has reached almost 65,000, said General SVR Telegram channel, an opposition source offering 'insider' information which the Kremlin is 'seeking to shut down'.

There is 'despondency' among Putin’s senior entourage that he had privately raised the 'extreme' option with 'top aides” of a 'goodwill' to cede newly invaded territories to Ukraine.

At the same time, there is a warning from his defence chiefs that a Ukrainian military counter strike is likely to be 'effective'.

Such an outcome would threaten his presidency, being seen as a humbling, crushing defeat.

But Putin’s leading officials are also said to be braced for a 'sharp deterioration' in his medical condition.

'With a high degree of probability, we can say that soon the president will not be able to personally hold meetings and participate in large events,' said the channel, which has long asserted the he suffers from cancer and other serious medical problems.

Putin’s absence will be explained as due to a return of the Covid pandemic, it was alleged.

In recent meetings with his security and defence aides, claimed General SVR, 'various options were discussed, from the possibility of mobilising and using tactical nuclear weapons, to opening a second front in a third country, and, finally, to "gestures of good will" with the return of the occupied territories of Kherson, Zaporizhzhia and Kharkiv regions to Ukraine.'

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To: ganeemead

If Putin is still alive after the Invasion is over, he will be hanged as a war criminal and trans-national gangster... or hanged if he is still alive because:

(a) He survived his medical issues;
(b) The Russian citizens do not assassinate him.


101 posted on 08/21/2022 4:33:49 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: WMarshal

At least 1000 times. Probably live to 175...


102 posted on 08/21/2022 4:34:01 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: escapefromboston

I would like to an analysis of the chain of command. But I don’t trust anything from the current administration.


103 posted on 08/21/2022 4:40:18 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Getready

Putin is in a desperate fight and isn’t tip-toeing around, the Russians are just not very competent.

While accurate information is scarce, we can see that the Russians are struggling as the months are passing, some things like his navy problems and lack of Air Force, manpower problems, equipment issues, and supply problems, are observable even at our distance and with lack of news coverage.


104 posted on 08/21/2022 4:51:55 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: dennisw; nomorelurker

Poland: Europe’s Newest Military Superpower?
https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/poland-europes-newest-military-superpower/

Some highlights
Poland has embarked on the largest procurement of conventional American weapon shipments in history. In March, Warsaw signed off on $4.75 billion worth of Patriot missiles, bolstering the nation’s anti-missile defense system.

Poland also requested an additional six Patriot systems in late May. This was not the first major purchase by the country, which prepared for the worst in February and laid the groundwork for its largest ever tank purchase, ordering 250 M1 Abrams tanks from the U.S.

Poland continued to strengthen its defensive capabilities. This includes a major weapons purchase from military tech giant South Korea, including 180 K2 tanks to be delivered by 2024 and another 400 by 2030. Additionally, Poland purchased 48 FA50 light attack aircraft, 1,400 IFVs, and 670 plus K9 self-propelled howitzers. Defense Minister Blaszczak also stated Poland will increase its active-duty forces to 400,000 with an increase in defense allocations to 3% of the nation’s GDP.

Arguably the top defense investment Poland made was the procurement of 500 HIMARS from the U.S.

It should also be noted Russia has ramped up militaristic rhetoric with regard to Poland; for example, by disrespecting the victims of the Katyn Massacre and suggesting that the country should be next in line to be “denazified.”


105 posted on 08/21/2022 5:06:14 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: UNGN; aMorePerfectUnion

I asked aMorePerfectUnion what was a ZEEPER since it was posted...I was told:

A FReeper who Supports [Z]elensky and believes the propaganda put out by Ukraine and the Homoglobalists.

Therefor, I made a joke out of Putin with PEEPER...A joke out of Biden with BEEPER. A joke out of Soros with SEEPER...

It was all in fun (to me)...

Now, you can take it as you wish...I really don’t care...I was just trying to have a laugh...


106 posted on 08/21/2022 5:08:32 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: UNGN

Check out post #43...That’s where I got it...


107 posted on 08/21/2022 5:11:27 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: JBW1949

Uh oh...you have offended the cult of Putin....lol


108 posted on 08/21/2022 5:17:12 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: rrrod

Oh noes!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL...

Is he coming after me???


109 posted on 08/21/2022 5:21:27 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: ansel12

Summary -— You get it! Thanks for posting this Polska information.


110 posted on 08/21/2022 5:25:49 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: ansel12

Much of this Poland new and abundant weaponry is paid for by Germany and the US. My opinion.


111 posted on 08/21/2022 5:30:41 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: ansel12
The Russians are going to control all of Ukraine east of the Dnieper River and entire Black Sea coastline. That area comprises 80% of Ukraine's GDP. Never mind, the strategic importance of control over the Black Sea.

The ruble has been at an eight-year high compared to the dollar. Russia is collecting a record amount of oil revenue.

This war, not surprisingly because it is being conduct by the Biden regime, has been a disaster for us and Europe.

Thinking like yours can only attributed to Russian Derangement Syndrome.

112 posted on 08/21/2022 5:35:19 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: JBW1949

You comments were funny.

I was just pointing out how ‘Zeeper” started out mocking the “Putin is our old friend fighting Soros for us” Freepers and many of them mistook it as a slam on people supporting Ukraine against Russian Aggresion.

Red is now Blue, Blue is now Red


113 posted on 08/21/2022 5:57:18 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: Kazan

There is just no denying that in the military world Russia has been greatly embarrassed, they could take all of Ukraine and still not undo what the world’s military watchers have seen and learned.


114 posted on 08/21/2022 6:01:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: dennisw

My old V Corps is back in operation and now in Poland rather than Germany, all part of Trump’s aggression against Russia.


115 posted on 08/21/2022 6:04:17 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: UNGN

I gotcha...That’s the first time i had heard it and kinda figured the Zelinsky thing was it...

Thanks for telling me about the “Z” on the tank being the origin...


116 posted on 08/21/2022 6:12:23 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Kazan
The Russians are going to control all of Ukraine east of the Dnieper River and entire Black Sea coastline. That area comprises 80% of Ukraine's GDP. Never mind, the strategic importance of control over the Black Sea.

No they aren't. That was the plan, but...nope.

Kharkiv is 30 miles from the Russian border and 300 miles EAST of the Dniepr.

In nearly 6 months of trying, Russia has never been further away from taking Kharkiv than they are today and they now have ZERO path to take Odessa. Zero. (just bridges with holes in them)

We all think Biden is Trojan Corpse brain dead idiot with London School of economics graduates with their hands up his butt making his mouth move, but The Dream of Russia Controlling 80% of Ukraine's GDP is a crack pipe one.

117 posted on 08/21/2022 6:16:40 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: BobL

...there are still PLENTY MORE sites to keep you ‘satisfied’.

________________________________

Maybe he and his cadre can join the WEF Information Warriors or the UN Influencers or Demcast.

Pretty sure they all put out podcasts/videos and articles used in their *training*.

FB, Twitter and IG would welcome them, but perhaps they are more adventurous. I do see them on the .win forums recently, too.


118 posted on 08/21/2022 6:55:50 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: absalom01

YOU know lots of us picked up our laptops and turned them upside down... LOL - totally worth it.


119 posted on 08/21/2022 7:37:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (The “threat to democracy” is shorthand for a "threat to Democrats".-- Daniel Greenfield)
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To: UNGN

...(1/4 of the population still craps in an outhouse)...
_________________

As do people here in the US and in countless other places. In India, many still use the streets and yet, international analysts consider India on the verge of becoming a superpower.

If you live off-grid, even if you have a composter (which is regulated in some areas), the outtie becomes the 2nd bathroom. I lived with one, voluntarily, for a time. Governments are not responsible for supplying mod cons to citizens. Septic systems are expensive and not all soils are suitable for them. Sometimes they fail. Rural life is full of compromises, everywhere.

As for FReepers who do not elevate Zelensky being *Zeepers*.......I think you misread your training manual. Turning the statement back on whomever you are trying to counter is not ALWAYS effective. In this case, you chose the wrong tactic and humiliated yourself, again. Spectacularly.

Trust me: only the quarter million official Information Warriors/Influencers/DNC mouthpieces the tyrants think will shut us up/drown us out/convince lurkers, agree with you about Putin/Russia. Nations representing over 3Billion are trading with Russia, joining their financial apparatus and not supporting NATO &/or Ukraine. Their government is legitimate and highly approved of, which is more than can be said of the US, Canada, various EU nations, Australia or NZ.


120 posted on 08/21/2022 7:42:04 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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