Posted on 08/07/2022 10:51:48 AM PDT by grundle
Here we go again. Another county — this time San Bernardino — is threatening to break away from California to form its own state. Petitions and plots of this sort pop up almost annually but then invariably fizzle. Yet however quixotic state division may seem, it has a much deeper, grimmer history than most Californians recognize.
A real estate developer and two mayors in the Inland Empire are the latest would-be secessionists. San Bernardino County, they argue, should be a state unto itself. With 2.2 million residents, it would be more populous than 15 other states. They’ve dubbed the unborn state “Empire.” (Take that, New York, long the Empire State.)
Aspiring separatists have made more than 220 distinct attempts to reconfigure California. Most recent wannabe separatists, like those in San Bernardino, feed off frustration with California’s liberal governance. The proposed state of “Jefferson,” formed from California’s northernmost counties, is perhaps the best-known conservative attempt at a remapping of the West Coast.
But California’s state division movement goes much deeper than the right-wing critique of the current government. Separatism is as old as the state itself. And it’s bound up in California’s history of slavery.
Los Angeles is the original home of secessionism in the state. Nearly every year in the 1850s, aggrieved Angelenos lobbied to break away from California to form a separate territory. They complained of a regional imbalance in legislative representation and a tax system that placed disproportionate levies on Southern California landowners.
But for many separatists, the primary motive was to transform Southern California into the nation’s next slave state. Their logic: Once free from California, the breakaway territory could jettison the state’s Constitution, legalize human bondage — and become a haven for westering slaveholders.
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Which secessionist movement? During the Trump years, lefties in California were talking about seceding from the Union. So were lefties in Oregon and Washington.
Whatta laughable a&&hole.
Everything is SLAAAAAAVERY!
Waaaaah!
The Spaniards made the Indios into slaves. The missions were death camps run by Spanish friars for the benefit of the Spanish King. The Encomienda was a ruthless system of royal bondage that was the mainstay of the tiny Spanish settlement of Alta California up until the Bear Flag Revolt.
But any deviation from the Leftist status quo is SLAAAAVERY and RAAAAAACISM!
He wouldn’t have said that in 1970 if far Left San Francisco had tried to secede from Far Right Los Angeles back then, but he’s probably too young and stupid to remember when California was part of the US.
Them: If you disagree with us in any way, you are racist.
If you do not eat our recommended food, you are racist.
If you insist on using math, science, or medicine, you are racist.
If you trigger us in any way, you are racist.
Us: You are full of s**t.
The past is evergreen to those wanting to hustle grievances forever.
Allowing criminal cartels to sell American citizenship ...
... then Californian liberal ‘elite’ scum buying their labor and sex on the cheap - - is a form of slavery.
Call it SlaveryLite if you want but it’s not that different than the democrat KKK crap in the South years ago...
But for many separatists, the primary motive was to transform Southern California into the nation’s next slave state. Their logic: Once free from California, the breakaway territory could jettison the state’s Constitution, legalize human bondage — and become a haven for westering slaveholders.
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Pure slanderous conjecture.
Notice no specific names that held this imagined “ logic” and wanted slavery. Just the prog accusation.
California entered the union in 9/1850 as a FREE ( non slavery) state as this media purposely didn’t inform.
Scumbag media trying to create a crisis where none exists.
The 1859 plan was championed by a state senator from Los Angeles who came from an old Spanish (or Mexican) family. Northern California was much more transformed by migrants from the East, who were pushing the Mexicans (or Spaniards) aside. In those days, San Francisco had the money and power and Southern California didn't have much of anything. The bill was actually passed by California's legislature and signed by the state's governor, but then the secession crisis came along.
It may be interesting to speculate if the plan had gone through, and Southern California had fallen under Confederate influence, but slavery and secession from the US weren't part of either separation plan.
Make it a country. The rest of the state goes red.
LOL! Anybody who doesn’t want to be ruled over by hardcore Leftist just wants to leave because of slavery. Its all about slavery.
The title is completely misleading. After spending about 95% of his article trying to liken the San Bernardino secession movement to bona fide pro-slavery efforts in the 1850s, he admits the SB folks are not motivated by a hankering to reinstitute slavery. Surprise.
I had a history professor who, when he handed out questions for an essay exam, always said , “There are no right answers; however there are wrong answers”. He meant it was possible to have different valid interpretations of facts. This article would have been considered a wrong answer by him.
I thought it was the right who wants to rid themselves of the left? Most people east of the mountains want nothing to do with those west of the Cascades.
When I was in college YEARS ago, another student told me about a class where the professor wanted the students to write an essay about a question the professor asked.
The professor’s question was, “Why?”
A student in the class wrote on his paper, “Why not?” and handed it in to the professor.
The student got an “A” on his paper.
Good answer!
Berdoo should join Arizona as a county. We welcome good solid conservatives.
Ahhh, I remember the good old days when the Communist Labor Unions would plant dynamite bombs at The Los Angeles Times and kill a bunch of their workers ...
Dear Kevin Waite:
If you wrote this article, then you should have evidence (of wanting slavery).
Couldn’t find any in your piece.
So therefore Kevin, you are apparently an idiot.
Just like your editorial board.
5.56mm
You're exactly right.
Oh, good grief.
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