Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Why The Russian Economy Isn’t Collapsing
russia-briefing.com ^ | August 3, 2022 | Posted byRussia Briefing

Posted on 08/07/2022 10:09:11 AM PDT by dennisw

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 101-112 next last
To: dennisw

Kudos for posting an informative article.


41 posted on 08/07/2022 11:08:51 AM PDT by agere_contra
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Grampa Dave

Also bear in mind the Russian Military Budget for 2021 was roughly $66 billion. The US military budget for 2021 was 801 billion. Saint HIMARs is the new god, Raytheon laughs all the way to the bank given the orders for the over-priced POS. Children in Ukraine are being named Javelin and Javelina. Bet.


42 posted on 08/07/2022 11:09:39 AM PDT by cranked
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Owen
US money comes from the Federal Reserve’s decisions, which are essentially whimsical.

Not really. You are not looking at the Dollar-Euro debt creation and its effects on the money supply. Jeff Snider identifies this well.

43 posted on 08/07/2022 11:12:36 AM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: cranked

You listen to Alex and Gonzalo? - if so good.


44 posted on 08/07/2022 11:15:12 AM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: frithguild

Indeed. Glad you caught the meme Javelin/Javelina reference.


45 posted on 08/07/2022 11:17:08 AM PDT by cranked
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Owen
Excellent and accurate comment, in context.

Although Money has no meaning, there IS a Money Line in your comment:

"For decades Russia has exported something with actual value — joules — in form of oil and gas. The US exports bytes on a data stream that put movie pictures on a screen, and because of importing and paying for oil, those exported bytes do not offset the cost of oil import."

46 posted on 08/07/2022 11:28:35 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Maine Mariner

That’s a sensible way to think about it.

I’d add that when there is a concerted effort on every level to damage the US in all ways possible, we’re sunk. It’s inevitable, I am extremely sad to say.

I have always been an eternal optimist but that has faded out when facing reality.


47 posted on 08/07/2022 11:30:58 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: dennisw

48 posted on 08/07/2022 11:39:15 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: aMorePerfectUnion

He is right about the decadent part.


49 posted on 08/07/2022 11:40:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: delta7

why is the LEFT so intent on collapsing the West?


50 posted on 08/07/2022 11:49:50 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: sauropod

monitor


51 posted on 08/07/2022 11:52:51 AM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dennisw

Because others are still doing business with Russia

He’ll America buys oil daily from Russia

Such insanity


52 posted on 08/07/2022 11:59:33 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: laplata

“I’d add that when there is a concerted effort on every level to damage the US in all ways possible, we’re sunk. It’s inevitable, I am extremely sad to say.”

We have been able to bounce back before in part because the hard left-e.g. communists, socialists, etc were marginalized.
Now the left has taken over the media, education at all levels etc.

I remember in 1972, the AFL-CIO did not endorse anyone for president and a good number of labor unions, such as the Teamsters, the Seafarers, and I believe the East Coast Longshoremen (ILA) supported Nixon. Since then almost all labor unions moved left, at least at the leadership level including the building trades.


53 posted on 08/07/2022 11:59:38 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: dennisw
Concerning Russia, Sapir also asks: “What is the share of the services sector compared to the share of the products and industry sector?”

Bingo! The short answer is that Russia grows, mines and manufactures vast amounts of things for itself and for export. By contrast, America and the West outsourced far too much of our manufacturing and fooled ourselves into believing that services are the truest measure of real wealth. Well, that may be true -- until things go wrong and reality disagrees.

In hard times, agricultural, mining and manufacturing economies still have the capacity to grow, mine and make things that people need. Real wealth remains. But when a service economy hits the skids, there's less money to manage and people find ways to amuse themselves, mow their own lawns, and do without what they can no longer afford -- and all that's left to sell off are unneeded computers, phones and lawnmowers. And paper promises.

All over the world, countries that were once "poor" now realize that they are actually rich in minerals, agriculture, and modern manufacturing capacities -- as long as they can prevent its theft by bankers and traders who don't mine, grow or make their own stuff. In particular, Russia ranks among the top producers of oil, natural gas, wheat and strategic minerals, maintains a huge manufacturing base, and has the military might to protect it.

This is why Russia is so feared by the West, and so hated by the bankers who dominate Western economies. This is why our government supports efforts to break up Russia into many smaller countries that would be easier to control. And it's why the ongoing rapprochement between Russia, China and India as a friendly trading block is absolutely terrifying to us.

America still possesses vast, excess mineral and agricultural wealth, much like Russia does. But we screwed up badly by off-shoring the bulk our manufacturing base. Now our pants are down, and we'd better fix ourselves quickly.

54 posted on 08/07/2022 12:00:18 PM PDT by Always A Marine ("When you strike at a king, you must kill him" - Ralph Waldo Emerson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dennisw

Then there is this less biased story:
‘There’s no path out of economic oblivion for Russia’: New report reveals how corporate exodus has already wiped out decades of post–Cold War growth
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4083665/posts


55 posted on 08/07/2022 12:08:06 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dennisw
"Writing this from Moscow, I can observe that supermarkets are full, there are no shortages, and gasoline is US$3.1 a gallon. That compares with Washington at US$4.99...

However, such comparisons are meaningless without adjusting for purchasing power parities, (PPP) which account for productivity and living standards, and thus per capita welfare and resource use."

Spin from the everything is great in Russia crowd. The author fails to do the very PPP analysis he says is necessary to make price comparisons meaningful. So lets do that for gasoline at $3.1 in Russia and $4.99 in the USA.

US Per Capita Income: $19,306
Russian Per Capita Income: $5,504
Source

A gallon of gasoline relative to median per capita income:
US: $4.99/$19,306 = 0.0258% of income
Russia: $3.10/$5,504 = 0.05632% of income

The median income per person in Russia is about one fourth of the median income in the USA, so in reality their gas costs them twice as much relative to their income as gas costs people in the USA. Relative to their income their gas is about the same as gas at $10.87 would be for us.

Using the exact example provided by the article, and applying the relative purchasing power correction, the average Russian is paying much more of their income for gas than people in the USA are.

Oops, another propaganda fail.

Except for an urban elite Russia is a very poor country.

56 posted on 08/07/2022 12:16:03 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Always A Marine
Russia ranks among the top producers of oil, natural gas..

You forgot to mention that the nation ahead of Russia, with roughly 1.4 times as much production is the USA.

So how does your whole theory work when the USA is actually the top oil producer?

57 posted on 08/07/2022 12:18:42 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: dennisw

Very good point which often gets missed when comparing GDP’s of countries. Man’s haircut in India cost me a quarter in 1984 during my visit while it was $4 in USA at that time. I still remember my $2.50 haircut in Paris in 1969, with a shampoo wash first, and then the barber cut it with a straight razor, which one gets only at very high priced barber shops in USA.


58 posted on 08/07/2022 12:19:48 PM PDT by entropy12 (Trump pp& MAGA are the only way to keep USA viable.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dennisw

Looks to me that both the Ukes and the Ruskies are currently enjoying heavy savings on their military payrolls.


59 posted on 08/07/2022 12:23:31 PM PDT by nicollo (arbitrary law is not rule of law)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: joshua c

why is the LEFT so intent on collapsing the West?
———
As Rush had prophecized, expected. What is troubling is the amount of people going along with it all, Biden’s vax hoax, shut downs and mandates, gay marriage, boys in girls locker rooms, LGBXYZ now in all government office, the Ukie War, etc…

I attribute it firmly to America’s departure from God’s word. The good news, God has a habit of protecting his believers. I can say since the Covid vax hoax hit awhile back, I have had the most “ prosperous “ times ever, blessings upon blessings, attributed to my increase in giving thanks, praise and worship.

My most valuable “ gift” was the gift of discernment. Without discernment, none of what is happening ( and what is coming) will make any sense. Pray for discernment.


60 posted on 08/07/2022 12:25:02 PM PDT by delta7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 101-112 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson