Posted on 08/03/2022 10:04:57 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
Russia's invasion of Ukraine has triggered the most serious crisis in relations between Russia and the West since the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.
Russia on Tuesday said that the United States, the world's top military power, was directly involved in the conflict in Ukraine because US spies were approving and coordinating Ukrainian missile strikes on Russian forces.
"It is the Biden administration that is directly responsible for all Kiev-approved rocket attacks on residential areas and civilian infrastructure in populated areas of Donbas and other regions, which have resulted in mass deaths of civilians." - Russian Defense Ministry
Russia's defense ministry, headed by a close ally of President Vladimir Putin, said Vadym Skibitsky, Ukraine's deputy head of military intelligence, had admitted to the Telegraph newspaper that Washington coordinates HIMARS missile strikes.
“All this undeniably proves that Washington, contrary to White House and Pentagon claims, is directly involved in the conflict in Ukraine," the defense ministry said.
US President Joe Biden has said he wants Ukraine to defeat Russia and has supplied billions of dollars of arms to Kyiv but US officials do not want a direct confrontation between US and Russian soldiers.
Russia said the Biden administration was responsible for missile attacks on civilian targets in areas controlled by Russian-backed forces in eastern Ukraine.
"It is the Biden administration that is directly responsible for all Kiev-approved rocket attacks on residential areas and civilian infrastructure in populated areas of Donbas and other regions, which have resulted in mass deaths of civilians," the defense ministry said…
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“Kosovo. Ones they’re trying to take are Georgia, Ukraine and a few others.”
So, Kosovo was conquered and annexed by NATO? Ukraine, Georgia and others are being conquered and annexed by NATO?
Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound?
If a guy drives a criminal to a house where he knows the guy he is driving intends to kill a person, goes in the house with the criminal and stands by as the the criminal kills the person, that go along guy, is as culpable as the guy he brought to the house.
This is direct involvement. And you know it.
Not to mention the driver pays the killer and buys him the gun and ammo and the intelligence.
You better pray that doesn’t happen because lying about being involved causing an escalation that forces US troops to die for a shithole like Ukraine will not go over well electorally. The current regime does know that or else US troops would be in there dying as we speak.
Exactly!
“Weird that I can’t recall when they started...”
Not weird, because it never happened. Russia would have been clobbered had it ever gone that far. Russia is good on the defensive, if the fight is on the soil of Mother Russia. Offensively, they have historically sucked.
It’s still mind-blowing that as badly the Nazis were beaten, they still lost 100,000 soldiers taking Berlin.
“Actually considering how close the Communists came to winning in France and Italy right after WWII, it was closer than people thought.”
It’s not surprising, since communists prey on the weak and vulnerable. At the end of WWII both France and Italy were in terrible condition, and ripe for the pickings of the communist vultures.
“And my guy (ugh), Waltz, completely backs expanding the US role in Ukraine. I will not be pulling the lever for him again.”
That means you voted FOR him in the previous election.
Glad I could lighten up your day!
“Not our circus, not our monkeys.”
Then why have you chosen sides?
“Since it was invaded by retread Californians...”
You do understand, don’t you, that “coast” implies adjacent to a large body of water? I’ve seen no map that shows Idaho in such a position.
“Show me a Western/EU/US who is printing such or what is actually occurring in Ukraine. Oh wait, my bad, there is NONE!”
Do you realize how non-sensical your comment is?
“If a guy drives a criminal to a house where he knows the guy he is driving intends to kill a person, goes in the house with the criminal and stands by as the the criminal kills the person, that go along guy, is as culpable as the guy he brought to the house.”
False analogy.
Your scenario falls under the criminal laws of certain states, etc. If the US supplying Ukraine with weapons is a criminal act, then it should be prosecuted for same. But, of course, it is not a criminal act, and is understood in international law accordingly.
“NATO is a nation destroyer. IE: Serbia. They’re not a builder of nations. you came up with the idea if it was annexed not me.”
You were discussing NATO and “land grab wars” with another FReeper.
I said that REAL land grab wars were conquer and annex affairs. Which is what Russia has been doing. I asked what countries have been conquered and annexed by NATO.
“It’s still mind-blowing that as badly the Nazis were beaten, they still lost 100,000 soldiers taking Berlin.”
And that was against a German force that was vastly outnumbered and outgunned and heavily laden with old men and kids.
Russian military doctrine was and still is focused on massed forces, and casualties be damned.
In WWII a Russian general was asked why he sent poorly-armed infantry across fields, ahead of the armor. He said if the field was mined, it was much cheaper to lose some soldiers than a tank.
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