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To: chajin

Christians who got the gov’t into defining marriage started this nonsense.

Gov’t has no role in defining marriage. Government can issue documents that allow people to declare who has power of attorney over their affairs and other such things.

That is all.


14 posted on 07/26/2022 9:00:18 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: Erik Latranyi

You are completely wrong. You make the mistake of assuming that marriage is strictly a religious proposition.

Feel free to take any and every religious aspect out of marriage if you so desire and look at it from a completely secular point of view.

Traditional mom and pop marriages work and benefit a society. Queer marriages do not work and tear down a society.

This being true, any government or society wanting to grow and prosper will naturally promote healthy traditional marriages.


69 posted on 07/26/2022 2:37:10 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Fake News. Might be true; but it’s designed to distort, mislead, brainwash and BS sheeple. )
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To: Erik Latranyi
"Christians who got the gov’t into defining marriage started this nonsense."

How so?

"Gov’t has no role in defining marriage. Government can issue documents that allow people to declare who has power of attorney over their affairs and other such things. That is all."

Not so. Government is a law-making body, and which laws will always reflect beliefs. Which includes affirming what marriage is and is not since it must deal with cases claiming covenantal marital rights (including regarding property), from multiple wives or husbands to those btwn the same gender to those with and btwn beasts, trees. fish or themselves. Even treating all co-habitation the same has the effect of defining marriage. Having cast off any sure supreme moral standard, now there is really nothing to stop liberal courts from treating a barnyard of diverse multiple unions as marriage.

The government makes and enforces laws regarding actions, from freedom of religion and speech, to the right to bear arms, to speed limits to capital punishment, based upon the beliefs of the Founders, and in turn, those who elect their interpreters. And the beliefs of Founders overall flowed from religion, and not any religion, but the general Christian faith more than any other more than any other, reflective of the people overall. But which SCOTUS later fundamentally disowned since government by the people (as a downside) means that in their spiritual declension, they can vote to themselves not only largess, but, directly or indirectly, anti-Christ persons.

75 posted on 07/27/2022 6:33:36 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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