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1 posted on 07/21/2022 4:40:31 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Thats because they are not abortions. No kidding.


2 posted on 07/21/2022 4:41:59 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Morgana

Treating a miscarriage may be the same procedure as an abortion, but it’s not an abortion. I know, I’ve had two D&C’s after miscarriages. I knew my babies were gone. There was no heartbeats on the sono and I had been passing them for days before the procedures. I never felt like I was killing my babies.


3 posted on 07/21/2022 4:46:30 PM PDT by Halls (Christian, Conservative, Proud Texan, Patriot, 100% Pro Life!)
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To: Morgana
Elsewhere on this board is a thread about families fighting in Disneyland in California. There is a video of this - part of which shows a woman hitting another woman in the head with a left hook.

Recently we saw that the assault and resultant stabbing death (in self-defense) in a New York Bodega was instigated by a woman pissed off because she was getting charged for a bag of chips. She joined the assault - stabbing the Bodega worker as he was defending himself from her boyfriend.

Now we have significant numbers of women whose number one issue is their right to kill a child in their womb. They claim reproductive rights, but they already have the right not to reproduce. It's called birth control, or abstinence.

The point is that the whole concept of women as morally superior, more compassionate human beings is currently a joke. I don't know what's happened to our female brethren, but it's nothing to be proud of.

4 posted on 07/21/2022 4:54:26 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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The pro-lifers are intentionally misunderstanding the ruling knowing Doctors can treat ectopic pregnancies and other health issues.


5 posted on 07/21/2022 4:58:03 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Morgana

Why is this even a question?


7 posted on 07/21/2022 7:50:05 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Morgana
If only everything was so black and white. But the practice of medicine lives in the gray areas. Abortion bans and trigger laws aren’t designed to deal with the gray areas. Protecting the unborn is an honorable undertaking. But how does the potential harm to women and motherhood - even if a small percentage - factor in? Specifically, women with serious medical conditions but who are not yet experiencing a medical emergency; stillbirth and miscarriage treatment will drastically change, in ways that negatively affect maternal health; lack of access to medicines like methotrexate, a standard medicine used for rheumatoid arthritis. Ectopic pregnancies are likely not to be affected.

Doctors: 'Chilling Effect' of Abortion Laws Imperils Women's Lives

“In Texas and another 22 states that have outlawed abortion or expect to soon, doctors are finding themselves in situations that are equally ambiguous and fraught. Early reports from doctors on the frontlines suggest that confusion over the legality of medical procedures is widespread among OB-GYNs, but it doesn't end there. Clinicians who may have to perform procedures on pregnant women are wondering about their legal liability, too. The uncertainty extends to pharmacies, classrooms and the social media pages of medical professionals, many of whom worry what they are legally allowed to say or post. Even if some of that confusion eventually subsides, it puts many pregnant women in immediate peril.”

How The End Of Roe Will Affect Gynecological Care

”But as many activists and physicians have noted since a draft of Justice Samuel Alito’s majority opinion in Dobbs leaked on May 2, the end of Roe has implications beyond abortion. What does it mean for embryos produced in IVF but not used? What will it mean for miscarriage and stillbirth care? Will these state laws, many of which impose severe penalties on OB-GYNs for providing abortions, lead to doctors making medical decisions that are in conflict with their training and not in the best interest of the patient? What aspect of basic gynecological and obstetrical care will new abortion restrictions disrupt that no one has realized yet?”

”The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) has been blunt about the way the ruling and trigger laws will impact both doctors and patients. “State legislators are taking it upon themselves to define complex medical concepts without reference to medical evidence,” the organization said in an explanation of its May update to its policy on abortion. “It is unacceptable for doctors and health care professionals to be punished, fined, or sued and face imprisonment for delivering evidence-based care.”

”We'll see an increase in complications of pregnancy and maternal mortality simply because more people — and more people with serious health conditions — will be forced to continue their pregnancies to term,” says Dr. Daniel Grossman, M.D., a clinician and director of the Advancing New Standards in Reproductive Health (ANSIRH) research program at the University of California San Francisco.”

8 posted on 07/21/2022 7:58:57 PM PDT by yelostar
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To: Morgana

Indeed.

This is indeed all the Left wants to focus on - making up stupid things that aren’t abortions that supposedly the pro-life movement was about - because otherwise it exposes the reality that abortion industry was about making cash on a purely elective ending of a child’s life.


9 posted on 07/21/2022 8:09:17 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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Since when have facts and actual science mattered to leftscum? They’re running non-stop “abortion bans will kill women and that’s what Republicans want” type ads where I live.


11 posted on 07/21/2022 9:51:25 PM PDT by piytar (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit!)
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