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No reverse gear. Donbass defeat, as another Afghanistan debacle looms
The Saker ^

Posted on 07/07/2022 5:32:48 AM PDT by ganeemead

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To: MarvinStinson; ganeemead
“Ukraine was about to reassert control over its sovereign territory that had been seized by Russia in the first place”

Where did you get that from?

From 's statement:

The ukies were three or four days away from a major invasion of Donbass, Putin simply beat them to the punch.
Donbas is Ukrainian territory that had been seized by Russia in 2014 through the use of Russian backed militias. Ukraine has every right to reassert control; it is not the concern of Russia.
21 posted on 07/07/2022 8:24:50 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Tupelo

Yeah what do the Ukes want from US to rebuild after a war that is not even finished yet? $600,000,000,000.00 tax payer dollars!


22 posted on 07/07/2022 8:27:48 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Petrosius

Wrong.


23 posted on 07/07/2022 8:35:18 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: MarvinStinson

How so?


24 posted on 07/07/2022 8:39:35 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: ganeemead
This post really, really triggered the neoconneds here.

They're dropping deuces in their drawers like Joey Diapers meeting the Pope!

25 posted on 07/07/2022 8:52:09 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: achilles2000
Russia has demilitarized Europe and NATurd.

It will be quite some time before the military-industrial complex in the West will be able to build back better.

26 posted on 07/07/2022 8:56:55 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Tupelo

The Russians were counting on an American type of shock and awe for the rapid win. That has not happened.

It is now a war of logistics and attrition.

It is interesting to observe how the war started with “Shock and awe”, then deteriorated to “Fire and maneuver” and is rapidly approaching “Static lines and entrenchment”..... all within a 90 day window.


27 posted on 07/07/2022 8:57:04 AM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: taxcontrol
It is interesting to observe how the war started with “Shock and awe”, then deteriorated to “Fire and maneuver” and is rapidly approaching “Static lines and entrenchment”..... all within a 90 day window.

The Western sanctions war started with “Shock and awe”, and now has deteriorated to 5 dollar gasoline, 6 dollar diesel and 50 bucks for an LNG mmBtu...

28 posted on 07/07/2022 9:02:58 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: ganeemead

“The ukies were three or four days away from a major invasion of Donbass, Putin simply beat them to the punch.”

How does one invade one’s own country?


29 posted on 07/07/2022 9:28:12 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Petrosius
MMMOOOOOoooooooooooooo, plop, plop, plop.....

Those territories bailed on the Kiev regime after the BS Soros, NATO, demopoop "color revolution" in 14...

And if that makes you disgruntled, give it about four months and watch what happens if Breadline Joe Biden is still in power here in the states by November, i.e. Texas will be gone from the union....

30 posted on 07/07/2022 9:36:10 AM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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To: taxcontrol

Russia is expending artillery shells that they have a 50-century supply of; Ukrainians are expending human lives.


31 posted on 07/07/2022 9:43:33 AM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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To: Harpotoo

“ $600,000,000,000.00 tax payer dollars!”

Biden’s goal in life is to be richer than Trump, be the richest president ever.

His 10% of the 600B will most certainly do that. He’ll be heading to Bill Gates territory.


32 posted on 07/07/2022 9:47:53 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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To: ganeemead
Those territories bailed on the Kiev regime after the BS Soros, NATO, demopoop "color revolution" in 14...

Sure, they "bailed" with a little help from Russian arms. Very democratic, that! And one has the gall to complain about Ukraine which has had two free elections since 2014.

33 posted on 07/07/2022 11:18:18 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: achilles2000
The WEF and our Neocons, and their narcissistic fantasies about remaking the world according to their evil and absurd utopian ideas, are responsible for this war…

Yes, it’s terrible how they took advantage of the weak-minded Putin and manipulated him into invading Ukraine.

34 posted on 07/07/2022 11:32:02 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: Tupelo

These two cities are like Minneapolis and St. Paul if you look on the map. Four months into this Novo-Soviet invasion Ukraine has yielded but not broken. Russia is stealing gas and oil fields. Pure and simple. Where were they discovered in 2014? Crimea and Donbass. Yasno!


35 posted on 07/07/2022 11:33:29 AM PDT by Srednik (Polyglot. Overeducated. Redeemed by Christ. Anticommunist from the womb.)
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To: kiryandil

Around half the nation has higher and half has lower than the National average, and I’m sure California is above the average.


36 posted on 07/07/2022 2:50:18 PM PDT by Morpheus2009 (If you want me to be afraid, then be consistent in your logic, standards, and your lies!s)
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To: semimojo

At least you have some dim understanding that US/NATO/WEF/SOROS provoked this proxy war and are responsible for the destruction of Ukraine. You are probably triple vaxxed and double masked in front of your computer.


37 posted on 07/07/2022 8:19:18 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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…US/NATO/WEF/SOROS provoked this proxy war and are responsible for the destruction of Ukraine.

It’s a shame how they use Putin as such a puppet.

38 posted on 07/07/2022 8:29:25 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: MarvinStinson

The Boomer brigade eat it up. All Russia has to do is hold out for another 15 years and there won’t be many dissenting voices left.


39 posted on 07/07/2022 8:36:17 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Crush, smash and obliterate the Liberal New World Order)
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To: semimojo; All

You obviously don’t know what a proxy war is. Moreover, your Neocon friends in the Biden Administration didn’t realize that Russian army is far better than what WAS the second largest army in NATO. Putin acted to protect Russian national security interests against US/NATO/WEF, while your buddy, President Depends, is allowing an invasion of this country and ordering our soldiers that they must shower with faggots and trannies.


40 posted on 07/08/2022 7:21:23 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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