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‘Friends’ Creator Says It Was a ‘Mistake’ to Misgender Chandler’s Trans Parent
Variety ^ | Jul 5, 2022 | Sasha Urban

Posted on 07/06/2022 1:24:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway

After pledging $4 million to Brandeis University over “guilt” about the lack of racial diversity on “Friends,” co-creator Marta Kauffman is now expressing regret over how the show represented another demographic: transgender people.

In an interview with The Conversation on the BBC World Service that will air on July 11, Kauffman called it a “mistake” to refer to the transgender mother of Chandler Bing (Matthew Perry) as his “father.”

“Pronouns were not yet something that I understood,” Kauffman told the BBC. “So we didn’t refer to that character as ‘she.’ That was a mistake.’”

The character, who had the stage name of Helena Handbasket, was played by Kathleen Turner, who said on “Watch What Happens Live With Andy Cohen” in 2019 that she wouldn’t have accepted the role if it was offered to her again “because there would be real people able to do [the role].”

Kauffman is also the creator of the hit Netflix series “Grace and Frankie,” and explained that she now tries to cultivate a welcoming environment on set for all people.

“I like very much to create an environment where we have a happy set and a happy crew. It’s very important to me that where we are is a safe place, a tolerant place, where there’s no yelling. I fired a guy on the spot for making a joke about a trans cameraperson. That just can’t happen,” Kauffman said.

Last week, Kauffman spoke to the Los Angeles Times about “Friends” and its lack of racial diversity. Although she has defended the show in the past, she had a change of heart and decided to donated $4 million to Brandeis University to establish the Marta F. Kauffman ‘78 Professorship in African and African American Studies.

“I’ve learned a lot in the last 20 years,” Kauffman told the L.A. Times. “Admitting and accepting guilt is not easy. It’s painful looking at yourself in the mirror. I’m embarrassed that I didn’t know better 25 years ago. “

Kauffman opened up further to BBC about the lack of Black people and other people of color on “Friends,” saying, “‘Friends’ has been criticized in a number of ways. The biggest one being that we did not have enough representation of Black people. And over the course of the last few years I’ve gotten to the point where I can say, unfortunately, ‘Yes, I am guilty of that.'”

“I’ll never make that mistake again,” Kauffman continued. “I was clearly part of systemic racism in our business. I was unaware of that, which makes me feel stupid. That was a very valid, extremely difficult criticism which still… I get emotional about. … If I knew then what I know now, there are certain things I would have changed. But I didn’t know them and I have since learned.”


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: again; againandagain; andagain; friends; homosexualagenda; lookingworks; overandoverandover; parents; scrolldownworks; searchandfind; searchworks; transgender
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1 posted on 07/06/2022 1:24:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t give a crap about misgendering in real life.

Why would I care about it in fantasy land?


2 posted on 07/06/2022 1:27:58 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Trump = The best President since Washington. )
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To: nickcarraway

How about it was a mistake to have anyone on that wasn’t heterosexual? Or that it was a mistake to in any way accept or support perversion?


3 posted on 07/06/2022 1:28:44 PM PDT by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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To: nickcarraway

This show is from 30 years ago? Nobody even thought about any of that then.


4 posted on 07/06/2022 1:28:47 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: nickcarraway

4 million. That’s about two cents from what the show makes every year. What nonsense.


5 posted on 07/06/2022 1:29:30 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 democratic )
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To: nickcarraway

Uh, what a LOSER! 😨


6 posted on 07/06/2022 1:30:17 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: bimboeruption

Why doesn’t the old left just issue a blanket apology for not foreseeing how insane future generations of little commies would become. I’m sure the current little commies will do plenty to anger the ones that miraculously survive their parents’ attempts to kill their offspring.


7 posted on 07/06/2022 1:30:39 PM PDT by Hazwaste (Socialists are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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To: nickcarraway

The mistake was casting Kathleen Turner, no one would believe she used to be a man, when most of them look like Richard Levine and Bruce Jenner.


8 posted on 07/06/2022 1:33:07 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: nickcarraway
The Uvalde killer had "trans issues" as well.

But the MSM will never touch this aspect.


9 posted on 07/06/2022 1:33:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: nickcarraway

Shuda been da Bee! 🐝


10 posted on 07/06/2022 1:40:10 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: nickcarraway

Is it possible to have a happy set and a happy crew if you can be fired on the spot for making a joke?

Isn’t that the definition of intolerance?

People that want their job won’t say anything that could possibly offend. That doesn’t make you happy.


11 posted on 07/06/2022 1:40:59 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Well, Turner did have a husky voice.


12 posted on 07/06/2022 1:48:45 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: nickcarraway

You shouldn’t have had or portrayed the DEVIANT, PERVERTED “lifestyle’ on your show AT ALL!.

Stay in your closet and play with yourself IN THERE.


13 posted on 07/06/2022 1:50:16 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: nickcarraway

It’s a mistake to misgender someone. If you call a person with a pair of nuts a woman, it’s a mistake. If you call a person with a va-jayjay a man, it’s a mistake. See?


14 posted on 07/06/2022 1:50:17 PM PDT by Mr. Rabbit
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To: Hazwaste

Let them all kill each other.

The world would be a better place (especially for children).


15 posted on 07/06/2022 1:50:35 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Trump = The best President since Washington. )
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To: nickcarraway
So much guilt! How do I sleep at night?


16 posted on 07/06/2022 1:51:23 PM PDT by silent_jonny (Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, Joe. The feet are at the door (Acts 5:9) 9-18-21)
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To: Boogieman

She was beautiful in Body Heat.

After that, she looked like Miss Piggy.


17 posted on 07/06/2022 1:52:27 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Trump = The best President since Washington. )
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To: bimboeruption

Oh, I’d still hit it up until about “Jewel of the Nile”...


18 posted on 07/06/2022 1:53:13 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: nickcarraway

Personally, I think they needed more dicks on “Dick van Dyke”.


19 posted on 07/06/2022 1:56:21 PM PDT by The Duke (Search for 'Sydney Ducks' and understand what is needed.)
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To: Travis McGee

We really need to update the Crazy-Hot chart by adding:
“Never date hairdressers, women named Tiffany and any tranny.”
You can’t fix crazy!


20 posted on 07/06/2022 2:00:41 PM PDT by Zathras
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