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1 posted on 07/03/2022 3:01:43 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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This has been posted before (if not this exact source, then another one). It is well worth posting it again, however, because the pro-Russians here on FR seem to glide right over Russia’s history of aggression. If they do comment on it at all, it is always with the moral equivalence fallacy.


2 posted on 07/03/2022 3:16:02 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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4 posted on 07/03/2022 3:32:12 PM PDT by Godebert
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Nothing to do with imperialism, only money. Oil money.


5 posted on 07/03/2022 3:41:15 PM PDT by bigbob (z)
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Let’s not omit the Sino-Ruso spats along the Amur river in 1929 & again in 1969


6 posted on 07/03/2022 3:50:16 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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The Chechen wars were justified to regular Russians by painting the Chechens as islamic extremists.

I’d have to agree as the Chechens brought us the Boston Marathon Bombers. Interestingly, the Russians warned use U.S. ahead of the bombing, but Obama’s FBI wasn’t interested.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-explosions-boston-congress/russia-warned-u-s-about-boston-marathon-bomb-suspect-tsarnaev-report-idUSBREA2P02Q20140326


7 posted on 07/03/2022 4:12:59 PM PDT by Flick Lives
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Propaganda, now that is something Ukraine knows about.


10 posted on 07/03/2022 4:18:29 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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Examples of this are ridiculous claims about “repressions of Russian-speakers”,

Strangely enough I think there is some truth to this in Ukraine. I believe that a trigger there was the changes in the government policy in Ukraine where to get the higher level jobs in Ukraine you had to be fluent in Ukrainian, whereas it used to be that all official business was conducted in Russian.

11 posted on 07/03/2022 4:30:29 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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Notwithstanding that the official website of Ukraine has a vested interest in presenting as skewed a picture as possible (for example, the ethnic and geopolitical tensions involving Abkhazia and Transnistria are way more complicated than they portray; Abkhazia, for example, was already an effectively autonomous region within Soviet Georgia prior to the fall of the USSR, and tensions between the Abkhaz and Georgians had already been fraught due to historical actions by the Georgian Communist Party and Abkhaz separatists in tandem), some of the facts omitted are especially egregious:

SECOND CHECHEN WAR (1999 — 2009). The second phase of the Chechen war, the “Empire strikes back” scenario, where Russia took revenge for its previous defeat. These two wars became a brutal “school” for Russian artillery officers and pilots on how to bomb cities into submission via mass killing of civilians. This experience would later be used in Syria and Ukraine to horrifying effect.

Islamic terrorists and Chechen separatists crossed into the Russian republic of Dagestan with the explicit goal of turning it into another Islamic republic. That was the trigger for Russia's retaliation against Chechnya the second time around.

It would be akin to saying that the United States invaded Afghanistan without mentioning the 9/11 terrorist attacks as the casus belli.

12 posted on 07/03/2022 4:31:24 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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it seems that the air held by Mssr. Putin as PyotrBolshoi, is turning out to be Ivan the Terrible.

a bit Napoleonic, maybe??


13 posted on 07/03/2022 4:38:47 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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The Cossacks: An (even longer) History of Blood, Terror, Betrayal and ButtHurt.


15 posted on 07/03/2022 4:52:59 PM PDT by bakeneko
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Ukrainian women are reporting rape by Russian soldiers but is it a war crime, a crime against humanity or even genocide?

19 posted on 07/03/2022 6:09:28 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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Slovakia Will Send MiG-29AS Fighters to Ukraine, Czech Will Provide Air Defense Instead

Soviet equipment for Ukraine running out as US pushes for NATO switch - While still attempting to provide Soviet arms, the Biden administration hopes Ukraine will use more Western equipment in the long run.

20 posted on 07/03/2022 6:13:05 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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Many have a similar list for US interventions in the last 20 years. Somehow, this stuff catches up to these world powers and the track record isn’t pretty.


21 posted on 07/03/2022 6:57:42 PM PDT by blackberry1
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‘War Made Easy: How Presidents and Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death’
https://www.amazon.com/War-Made-Easy-Presidents-Spinning/dp/047179001X

“This guide to disinformation analyzes American military adventures past and present to reveal striking similarities in the efforts of various administrations to justify, and retain, public support for war.”

Thank you for doing your part.


22 posted on 07/03/2022 9:27:19 PM PDT by cranked
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