[IrishBrigade]

‘...Get to Church men...’

history is replete with men who have considered themselves to be the godliest of people, who pray reverentially at the appropriate times, and by most outward appearances set the holiest of examples...yet in their personal dealings with their fellow men. they exhibit the morals of the most loutish of rapscallions (homosexual prelates, anyone...?), and thus have caused untold amounts of human tragedy...

places of worship and their panoply of rituals have no monopoly on righteous behavior; a secularist who observes the cultural directive of not doing to someone that which he would not want done to himself serves just as well...

[frogjerk]

History is replete with scoundrels who hate God, the church, kill millions and the like. The 20th century is replete with examples. Stack them up against the wolves in sheeps clothing in the Church and there is no comparison who had done more damage. Christianity and religion are responsible for the western ideals you enjoy in your rant of freedom of speech. Give GOD the glory man!

Do you not know that this great nation was overwhelmingly founded by Church going Godly men? Who, although imperfect themselves, set up high morals and ideals based on God and His Church? That in itself should state that going to Church and listening to the word of GOD gives one an infinitesimal better chance at securing Liberty.

a secularist who observes the cultural directive of not doing to someone that which he would not want done to himself serves just as well...

They are far and few between and their influence is but a pinprick of history compared to God, His Church and his Saints.

Every secularist who does good still ultimately has God as his model.

God Bless You!