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Biden tries to climb down from Ukraine ledge ​Twin strategic and economic crises prompt search for a way out of Ukraine trap
Pakistan Defence ^ | JUNE 17, 2022 | DAVID P. GOLDMAN

Posted on 06/23/2022 4:20:43 AM PDT by Cathi

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1 posted on 06/23/2022 4:20:43 AM PDT by Cathi
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Interesting news on the Ukraine conflict front:

Yesterday, Russia reported, “In the area of ​​​​Nikolaevka of the Donetsk People’s Republic, due to the threat of defeating the units of the 14th and 24th mechanized brigades , the Ukrainian command evacuated up to 30 wounded and eight dead American and British mercenaries at night to prevent them from falling into the units of the Russian Armed Forces.”

Today, https://t.me/s/asbmil

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LPR says that when trying to break out of the encircled Zolote — a group of foreign mercenaries was destroyed, one of whom was an instructor.

Instructors are always Brits or Americans to our knowledge. LPR won’t disclose details but they say “very valuable trophies were found”
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Ukrop channels are circulating information about the pentagon instructing American private military companies (mercenaries) operating in Ukraine to withdraw all US citizens from Ukraine within a month.
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https://t.me/s/rezident_ua/

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Our source in the OP said that the Pentagon demanded that American PMCs withdraw US citizens from Ukraine within a month. At the moment, about 1,000 military PMCs have been hired in the United States by our oligarchs, and about 3,000 more representatives of European countries.
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2 posted on 06/23/2022 4:24:15 AM PDT by Cathi
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Just tell them we got no money or guns left to give them. They can ask the others. We already given them countless weapons and about 56 billion dollars. Half of which will be laundered back to politicians.


3 posted on 06/23/2022 4:28:39 AM PDT by glimmerman70
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Ukraine ledge​Twin strategic and economic crises prompt search for a way out of Ukraine trap

Way out is not to get in. For a long time now, we have known that our great power rivalry is with China, yet we bogged ourselves down in Ukraine after the Afghanistan debacle.

The other thing Ukraine has done is remind us what real war looks like between industrialized countries. It isn't a battle above 30,000 feet with F22s. It's on the ground with bullets and shells and troops taking and holding territory.

And, as von Clausewitz reminds us, which Russia is focused on, is the destruction of the other side's army, something we didn't do in Korea, in Vietnam, or any of our Middle East adventures.

4 posted on 06/23/2022 4:35:31 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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Ask Jennifer Griffin / Milley / Austin

$$$$ is gone.

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5 posted on 06/23/2022 4:39:19 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Lindsey Graham: How can anyone be Mad at Joe Biden)
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Stolen elections have consequences.


6 posted on 06/23/2022 4:39:20 AM PDT by oldvirginian (The CCP is the world's largest criminal organization. The FBI is the second largest.)
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Biden fell off his bicycle long ago. It was Putin’s fault.


7 posted on 06/23/2022 4:40:18 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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President Rice wants a hot war with Russia so they can turn the censorship and anti-insurrection knobs up to 11 before the mid-terms but Russia is not playing.


8 posted on 06/23/2022 4:40:59 AM PDT by The Free Engineer
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Yeah, Biden raised his voice. He was adamant, he had a plan to wreck the economy, that these sanctions would bring Russian to her KNEES and BEG for economic relief. I think he missed a cue from one of his handlers, as this did not go down the right rabbit hole. Maybe he will try again, and see if he can ruin the entire world economy this time...


9 posted on 06/23/2022 4:41:42 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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The part of the article that surprised and infuriated me is that apparently the EU big three did everything they could to get Zelensky to just enact the Minsk agreement Ukraine had already signed 7 years ago. prior to the military conflict starting.

It was the Biden administration that egged Zelensky on to fight Russia instead with the promise of NATO inclusion and lots of weapons and money.

Well, we are all paying the price now. Our NATO partners were unhappy with how Biden handled Afghanistan and left them in the lurch. They have to be beyond angry now over his unbelievably dumb move of trying to make this a proxy war in order to achieve the Obama/Biden strategy formulated over a decade ago to “destabilize Russia, weaken them militarily and create “regime change.”


10 posted on 06/23/2022 4:49:46 AM PDT by Cathi
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...the ideological priorities of his Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland, the architect of the 2014 Maidan Square coup that set the present tragedy in motion.

The Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum of the State Dept; the very epitome of interventionism the State Dept loves, which they think will create a utopian one-world government, but which instead inevitably leads to chaos and destruction of other countries.


11 posted on 06/23/2022 4:58:29 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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For people wanting to know why Russia is so interested in winning in Ukraine, this may help. Basically it calls for splitting up Russia into multiple countries*. “Its aggression also is catalyzing a long-overdue conversation about Russia’s interior empire” - Note the term “Interior Empire”...it’s no longer about their neighborhood, it’s about Russia itself.

Note also that this is posted on a US Government Website.

Finally note also that they cannot even write 2 paragraphs without being full of propaganda as they’re blaming Russia for both Libya (where they had next to no involvement, but we sure did) and Syria (where they were not involved there for 3 years, but we’ve been involved from day one).

It looks like our government is pretty much through with peaceful coexistence with Russia, regardless of what happens in Ukraine.

*I think many here might be ok with that in the US, but that doesn’t mean Russians wants that outcome.

https://www.csce.gov/international-impact/press-and-media/press-releases/decolonization-russia-be-discussed-upcoming


12 posted on 06/23/2022 4:59:55 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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“The part of the article that surprised and infuriated me is that apparently the EU big three did everything they could to get Zelensky to just enact the Minsk agreement Ukraine had already signed 7 years ago. prior to the military conflict starting.”

Perhaps, but I heard that someone high up said that they were never serious about Minsk and they only told Ukraine to agree to it in order to stop the Russian troops from moving into Kiev, in 2014. He said that agreeing to Minsk was only to buy time, to arm-up Ukraine to fight Russia. Kind of makes it difficult for Russia to now trust us, at all. The Soviet Union trusted us more than Russia does now.


13 posted on 06/23/2022 5:04:09 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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14 posted on 06/23/2022 5:09:42 AM PDT by EEGator
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Funny that the United States won’t tell Ukraine what to do.... Biden had no problem getting a prosecutor fired as VP. Article say oil is the driving force in inflation, which Biden had 12-months of war on the oil industry before this conflict. Screw the democrats.


15 posted on 06/23/2022 5:10:38 AM PDT by Jumper ( )
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The Approved Reality is getting vaporized by Reality, just like the Ukes


16 posted on 06/23/2022 5:13:41 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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One of the enlightening things for me to discover is that every group and committee we think is legitimate and objective is actually a paid for front for the U.S. government.

That committee that held that program on “Decolonizing Russia” is an American paid for entity. I posted about that program yesterday and the site I got it from actually had a full colored map showing how WE were going to divide Russia for, you know, DEMOCRACY.

Yes, Bob, I think they have our number now. Like they keep saying this is a divorce.


17 posted on 06/23/2022 5:16:29 AM PDT by Cathi
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At some point in the future when historians look at this point in time they may wonder just how insane our world leaders were.


18 posted on 06/23/2022 5:18:18 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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I saw that map too...kind of like a guy comes into your house and says he’s going to dismember you. A normal reaction might be to fight back, with EVERYTHING you have, and the case of Russia, do we really want to see EVERYTHING that they have? And if they really intend to literally break up Russia, then we will, indeed, see EVERYTHING they have.


19 posted on 06/23/2022 5:27:01 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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The Eastern Shipbuilding Company here in Panama city, Florida, hires a bunch of Ukrainians. They are are filthy, rude anti-American a****oles to say the least. They think the USA is supposed to go fight Russia while these bums stay here and milk off the US system.


20 posted on 06/23/2022 5:36:22 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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