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Grandma Told Shooter to Get Rid of Gun Before Uvalde Massacre
DB ^ | Jun. 02, 2022 | Matt Pierce, Michael Daly

Posted on 06/21/2022 2:19:00 PM PDT by conservative98

ULVADE, Texas–In the days before Salvador Ramos shot and killed 21 people at Robb Elementary School, his grandmother demanded he remove a gun from her house, according to a neighbor and a law-enforcement official familiar with the investigation.

Rudy Martinez, who lives in the same neighborhood as Ramos’ family, told The Daily Beast that on the Thursday prior to the deadly massacre, Celia Gonzales, also known as “Sally,” described Ramos becoming outraged at her for insisting he get at least one gun out of her house.

“We heard them yelling,” Martinez told The Daily Beast. “I asked Sally what they were fighting about this time, and she told me that her and her sister or someone had found out that Salvador had brought guns into her house. She didn’t want them there.”

The mass murderer’s aunt, Natalie Salazar, told authorities that family had discovered a semi-automatic rifle in a duffle bag that day—May 19—and told him he had to take it out of the house because his grandfather has a criminal record and is not allowed to possess firearms, according to the law enforcement source.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; nra; secondamendment; texas; uvalde

1 posted on 06/21/2022 2:19:00 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

From June 2, 2022.

So after saying they didn’t know he had them, the family too lied.

Everybody is lying all over the place.


2 posted on 06/21/2022 2:19:30 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

This is an attempt at a legal defense


3 posted on 06/21/2022 2:20:57 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: conservative98

“..Everybody is lying all over the place....”

Yep. Especially that woke libtard police chief and his merry band of flying leos. Whadda sorry bunch.


4 posted on 06/21/2022 2:22:26 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (Pray for America....)
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To: conservative98

Do we actually know anything about Salvador Ramos? Was he a citizen? A Green Card? An illegal? Did he have any previous contact with LE?

In any case, everybody is lying in this case and nobody seems to be heading up an in-depth investigation. But, you can bet your last dollar that if the shooter was white, the place would absolutely be crawling with the FBI and the DOJ.

But like the Supreme Court leaker, this too looks like it will get thrown into the memory hole.


5 posted on 06/21/2022 2:26:36 PM PDT by Obadiah (DeSantis 2024)
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To: conservative98

MORE TO THIS STORY THAN GRANDMA:

FYI: I received the info below and have not attempted to verify same.
More oddities re: TX School Shooter, for your information:

He was an 18 year old who lived with his grandma. Had a part-time job at McDonald’s (8 hours a week), minimum wage. He dressed in expensive women’s clothes. He dropped out of school because he was obsessed with video games.

Had a Brand new expensive game console. A brand new F250 pickup “fully loaded.” His weapons: 2 Brand new Daniel Defense (brand) AR15/M4 rifles, with Military grade Optics. Each rifle is between $3,000 and $4000 dollars. Thousands of rounds of expensive Military grade ammunition. A thousand dollar bullet proof vest. All from a part time job at McDonald’s...?!?!?!?

Ford F250 Platinum $71,000.00

Game Console $500.00

Rifles $6000.00/$8,000.00

Optics $1000.00

Ammo $900.00

Body Armor $1000.00

TOTAL - $80,400.00………… On Minimum Wage ??!!

Seems to me SOMEONE WAS FUNDING HIM and training him as well... And oh - he just happens to have known the Buffalo shooter? Seriously?! Someone is TRAINING these so-called “shooters” .... And those rifles were EXACTLY like one of the rifles from the Las Vegas “shooter”.

EXACTLY — down to the optics, AND the vertical fore-grip. And that particular configuration is (legally) only available to “Military and Law Enforcement” ... the only conclusion one can arrive at is that there is someone TRAINING these miscreants so that our Second amendment can be ended.

And just before the NRA Convention, how timely...

Worth thinking about all this…..Is Soros this hateful ?


6 posted on 06/21/2022 2:31:45 PM PDT by chopperk
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To: chopperk

Where do people keep getting the F-250 Platinum from? He was driving an old 2004 gen F-150.


7 posted on 06/21/2022 2:35:44 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: chopperk
A brand new F250 pickup “fully loaded.”

Not sure where you got this, but the Ford pickup he crashed into the ditch before entering the school was an early 2000s model barely worth maybe $5k

8 posted on 06/21/2022 2:36:41 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: chopperk

“. A brand new F250 pickup “fully loaded.” “

Totally false.

“2 Brand new Daniel Defense (brand) AR15/M4 rifles, with Military grade Optics. Each rifle is between $3,000 and $4000 dollars.”

One. Starting at about $2k.


9 posted on 06/21/2022 2:42:52 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: chopperk

>> Seems to me SOMEONE WAS FUNDING HIM

And the keystone cops were ordered to stand-down while a marksman was dispatched to execute the shooter.

It’s easy to draw logical explanations when the once “unthinkable” factors are placed aside.


10 posted on 06/21/2022 2:46:41 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: conservative98
If'n I don't have some guns, how'll I shoot up muh school, granny?


11 posted on 06/21/2022 3:04:57 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (All Hail the MAGA King, beloved of Ultra MAGAs and Deplorables!)
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To: chopperk

Come now

For the price of _____, We lose our 2A.


12 posted on 06/21/2022 3:08:27 PM PDT by combat_boots
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To: chopperk

This disinformation meme has been circulating since day one and it’s mostly crap. Stolen truck and it’s been established that he quit school and worked full time for nearly a year which is why he didn’t graduate.


13 posted on 06/21/2022 3:11:09 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: conservative98
"So after saying they didn’t know he had them, the family too lied."

I thought the grandfather, who is a convicted felon, said he couldn't live in the same house with the Salvador, because of the weapons he owned.

14 posted on 06/21/2022 3:11:22 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: chopperk

Yes. He is.


15 posted on 06/21/2022 3:15:48 PM PDT by Howie66 (Let's Go Brandon!!)
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To: chopperk
 
 
That's a bunch of garbage. Stop it.
 
 

16 posted on 06/21/2022 4:01:12 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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One good thing we have going for us, we know our gvmt and the media will ferret out the truth and Will never lie to us...lol.


17 posted on 06/21/2022 4:48:52 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: conservative98

Just waiting for the final shoe to drop. The door to the school was unlocked, the school policeman was awol, two cops could have shot him before he entered the school, there were police with shields and rifles in the school early on, the door to the classrooms were unlocked, all the police were standing around waiting for the big chief to tell them what to do in spite of allegedly successfully completing active shooter training recently, the shooter has a debit card capable of purchasing thousands of worth of rifles and ammunition, etc. All that is left if for Mr Potato Head at the FBI to announce that the shooter was an FBI CI.


18 posted on 06/21/2022 6:03:32 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: mass55th
"I thought the grandfather, who is a convicted felon, said he couldn't live in the same house with the Salvador, because of the weapons he owned.<"

So if I understand what's being shoveled here is, when I use to listen to the "G-MAN," a.k.a., Gordon Liddy (Watergate fame) talk on the air about the different "NEW @ THE TIME," weapon purchases, Mrs. Liddy made that particular day, live on the radio air-waves, I didn't hear that.

As the G-Man pointed out numerous times, he couldn't own any weapons, but the Mrs.'s could.

Boy, sure am glad; to know I had a hearing problem; back when I didn't know; I had one. Shaking my head, rolling my "F-ing"eye's.

19 posted on 06/21/2022 10:58:29 PM PDT by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's lie, only while testifying, as taught in their respected Police Academy(s). )
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To: Stanwood_Dave
"Shaking my head, rolling my "F-ing"eye's."

I totally understand. We've all been shaking our heads and rolling our F-ing eyes for many years now. I'm surprised we haven't passed out from it.

20 posted on 06/22/2022 8:33:23 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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