What about the thousands of dollars it cost to replace the battery after 8 years?
Of the effect on car resale or trade in value if the next owner knows YOU drove the car for five years - and in three years he’ll have to shell out $12,000 for a new car battery.
A tesla owner burned his tesla “in protest” when he found out what it would cost to replace the batteries.
Tesla Owner Blows Up Car Rather Than Pay $22K to Replace Battery
What about the thousands of dollars it cost to replace the battery after 8 years?
The 900lb Toxic Battery ?
I did not consider this. Now I have four reasons. Thanks.
Teslas new LiFePO4 cells are good for 12,000 cycles to 20¡ Depth of discharge or DOD. A model 3 LR with those cells goes 330 miles so 80% of that is 264 miles. 12,000 cycles is over three million miles even adding in 20% pack loss over that 12,000 cycle lifetime would be a end of life 20% DOD range of 194 miles and with 12,000 cycles is still well over 2 million miles. So the actual pack lifetime is between 3 million and two million miles. Tells themselves expect the packs to be million mile packs. They have a new pack that’s 4 times better.
Welcome to the 21st century boomers your coming kicking and screaming if we have too. Gas will be $10 in a year or less due to refinery capacity not oil supply.
Every major automaker is ending ICE engine production by 2030 or shortly after why because no one can touch the P&E of Tesla other than the cells an EV is crazy easy to manufacture the motors have one moving part vs 4000+ for a ICE engine. Once you vertically integrate your own cell manufacturing and raw materials sources there is no way to touch the P&E ratio of a EV. The motors and single moving part in a EV will last for half a century or more there are electric motors still running today for Thomas Edison’s time and those didn’t have modern alloys in their bearing packs. Cars will be sold for a period of ownership measured in decades as in 30 to 50 years much like a home they will be a asset with a mortgage term of 20 years or more at those term lengths $100,000 plus makes sense. The auto makers will sell replaceable body shells to put on the main skateboard platform with the cells and motors being carried over from body upgrade to the next just like remodeling a home. It a coming like it or not. The momentum has already happened.
“Of the effect on car resale or trade in value if the next owner knows YOU drove the car for five years - and in three years he’ll have to shell out $12,000 for a new car battery.”
Consumer Reports estimates the average EV battery pack’s lifespan to be at around 200,000 miles, which is nearly 17 years of use if driven 12,000 miles per year.
There will not be a used market. More like computers. Use and pitch
I am not a big fan of EV's since I live in a winter wonderland, but it is unlikely you would need to shell out $12K for a battery after 5 years unless you are a high milage driver operating during extreme conditions
I've never had a car longer than 8 years.
Is 8 years for battery replacement determined? Does it relate to how many miles driven? Is the cost of a used EV reduced by cost of new battery?
Replacement batteries are peanuts compared to the upkeep of ICE cars.
Tesla is a sort of extortion racket, there are Chinese cars of similar properties with service intervals of 50,000 miles including just a break job and liquid flush.
The article is misleading in a way that of course a short range city car is a bad choice for a long trip.
For short trips, they are better than regular cars already. Better cars are relatively suitable for long trips. Once they’d have a reliably 1000 mile range on charge, they’d displace ICE.
My DIL was trying to sell her 2012 Honda hybrid in 2016 and we considered buying it. Then I read the battery life was only 5 years and a replacement cost $5000 at the time. We passed.