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To: RandFan

Russia is wrong, and Putin is a war criminal. That being said, this is not a US problem. It’s an EU problem. This ain’t 1945 anymore. Europe is rich. Let them meet in Brussels or wherever, and decide what to do - using their own money.

If they want to buy 100 US howitzers, fine. Give them a quantity discount.


8 posted on 05/30/2022 5:31:38 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right

I agree but then we’re labelled Putin apologists. Argh.


17 posted on 05/30/2022 5:40:27 AM PDT by RandFan (For some reason I'm interested in politics, particularly the U.S. Senate)
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To: Leaning Right

“Russia is wrong, and Putin is a war criminal. That being said, this is not a US problem. “

Here’s the reality. According to Article 5 of the NATO treaty, an attack against one member is an attack against all members. We signed up to that. If Russia takes Ukrainian territory and we don’t do everything necessary to stop them, then the next stop will be halfway through Poland. Russia is trying to reestablish the depth of field they had during Soviet times. This may be nostalgia on Putin’s part, or he may want a legacy because nobody is going to attack a country with nuclear weapons. But whatever the reason Putin is not likely to stop if he wins in Ukraine. The thinking is, stop them in Ukraine or face them on NATO soil due to article 5. The US has made the calculation that spending forty billion now may avoid countless trillions later. They are trying to avoid the mistake of caving to Hitler by ceding territory. The more “we” give up, the more Putin will want.

Failing now means Putin will salami slice his way into NATO. Also, failing in Ukraine increases the CCP’s risk level in taking Taiwan. There are a whole lot of dominoes poised the fall and the US is attempting to prevent the first one from falling. Had we done this in 2014 we wouldn’t be doing this now. But Crimean was Putin’s “last territorial demand.” (Yeah, we’ve heard that before.)


47 posted on 05/30/2022 6:10:55 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry.)
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To: Leaning Right

“Russia is wrong, and Putin is a war criminal.’

Please tell us specifically what Putin has done that makes him a war criminal?

Methinks you are spending too much time on CNN.


173 posted on 05/30/2022 8:49:25 AM PDT by icclearly
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To: Leaning Right; RandFan; Travis McGee; Pelham; BobL; kiryandil; mac_truck

You don’t think Ukrop and Azov are murderers ?

People here don’t know shit about this honestly

Look at any video in the east. Interviewing civilians

I’ve watched 100s

The locals support. DRP and the Russians supporting them

The DRP is doing most of the fighting ....Russia is backing them up

And you’re right

It’s done

Putin will likely get what he has said he wanted for years

He’s recovering territorial Russia more or less

I don’t care who has more more authority

Wasn’t any way this was going to turn out different

Our taxes and Uke civilians deaths in the east just made him pay a higher price maybe

Anyone trust Russian casualty figures from some defense minister in Kiev is gullible and that’s precisely wha they do

Our media simply prints what’s given them or better yet our state department creates propaganda for Kiev to give our reporters ensconced in hotels in western Ukraine living the good life in this total war

Wash Po ...a main globalist purveyor admitted it last nite

Here it is

I strongly advise folks read this .....you’ve been so lied to

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/05/29/western-media-confirming-russia-solidifying-gains-in-eastern-ukraine-donbas-region/#more-233620


176 posted on 05/30/2022 8:55:50 AM PDT by wardaddy (Where did all the same posters go......they cannot have all died ....could they ?)
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To: Leaning Right
Bullshit. It's the Ukrainian neo-Nazis that are war criminals and have been for eight years. There the ones that have sought to exterminate the ethnically Russian population with out assistance and threatened more revolutions if the Minsk Agreement was implemented.

We're the ones that turned Ukraine into a national security threat to Russia. We armed Ukraine with offensive weapons, funded biolabs with deadly pathogens in them and teased NATO membership for it.

The Biden regime wanted this war. They hoped it would lead to regime change so our corrupt political and business class could enrich themselves in Russia like they have in Ukraine.

180 posted on 05/30/2022 9:04:17 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Leaning Right

India bought some M777 towed 155mm Howitzers. They ran $5Million each.....


185 posted on 05/30/2022 9:11:50 AM PDT by Gaffer
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