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Lavrov says Donbas' liberation 'unconditional priority', 'no sign' of Putin's illness
A News ^ | 5/29/2022 | A News

Posted on 05/29/2022 3:01:56 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: FreshPrince
So, put up or shut up and make your final prediction on the how the war ends.

I already have.

41 posted on 05/29/2022 6:45:37 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

I have no idea.

But I do know the world will no longer accept naked land grabs
thru aggression. Thats so pre WWII...


42 posted on 05/29/2022 6:50:20 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: FreshPrince

Naked land grabs? What about China taking Tibet? That was a naked attack. What about Treaty Breaking China seizing Hong Kong? No, Borders will change. Its History.


43 posted on 05/29/2022 7:08:16 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: Robert DeLong

You could at least try to stay on the subject and make an argument for why Russia is justified in attacking and destroying the very cities it claims it is “liberating”. But you don’t since you don’t have any argument to make.


44 posted on 05/29/2022 7:08:57 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Kazan

Kazan, nice to see you are working in your cubicle somewhere in St. Petersberg. Do they have something like Memorial Day for the Russian soldiers who get killed doing Putin’s dirty work?


45 posted on 05/29/2022 7:11:20 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: amnestynone
No, are you a New World Order/One World Government bot?

So, the think Trump is Hitler, that Biden was a truck driver, that Biden got more votes than did Obama "The Messiah". Perhaps you also believe that Trump tried to foment an Armed Insurrection on Jan. 6th 2020, without a single weapon found. That the Arab Spring was a grassroots occurrence that happened spontaneously. That we were not the force behind the chaos created in the Middle East. That it was a fair & free election, and Trump just plain lost the election. That Covid was not a bioweapon attack purposely perpetrated by the Chinese CCP. That the New World Order/One World Government is pure nonsense that should be rejected without any further consideration as a reality or even a genuine possibility. That freedoms are not being lost in every western country, that God is just a figment of the imagination of humans, that life on planet earth is just a set of occurrences that defy mathematical possibility. That evil doesn't really exist. Should I go on, because there are probably more things you believe, since you believe that Ukraine has a chance to win this conflict.

Only a fool or the opposition would dispute what I said.

So which are you?

46 posted on 05/29/2022 7:19:34 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: freeandfreezing
I have made that argument repeatedly. But I will repeat it once again just for you.

Putin annexed the Crimea as the result of the U.S. fomenting a coup of Ukraine's duly elected president, that all foreign observers deemed was a fair & free election.

Putin recommended against the Donbas region from voting on and passing their declarations of autonomy. Note, they were not declaring themselves as not being a art of Ukraine, just that they wanted autonomy to retain their right to speak Russian, and to teach their children using the Russian language. Neither Putin or the Russian Parliament recognized the autonomy of the Donbas region for 8 years until 2022, which then gave them legitimacy to intervene in the conflict.

That he tried for 8 long years for outside nations to try to make the Ukrainian government live up to the 2 Minsk agreements that they signed to restore the right of the Donbas region citizens to maintain Russian to be spoken and used to teach students in the schools, but most importantly that the ongoing killing and torturing of Russians who have lived in Ukraine their entire lives be stopped and order returned to that region, and to also neuter the Nazis that were causing all these problems in the Donbas region. But all of his diplomatic attempts to do this using the proper channels fell on deaf ears who did nothing.

47 posted on 05/29/2022 7:39:34 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Tibet 1950? That may be one exception. Given that Tibet is in the middle of no where with no geopolitical importance to the western world, would be part of the turning the other way response.

Hong Kong is and alaways was Chinese territory. It was leased by the British and returned at the end of the lease. No military agression required.

Is that the best you got?

I can give you one that what attempted that the civilized world did not put up with: Iraq attack and occupation of Kuwait.

Again, after the lessons of WWII, the world does not take kindly to other countries deciding to enlarging the empire thru military conquest. Those days are gone.


48 posted on 05/29/2022 10:57:03 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: McGruff

That picture is so gay and it definitely doesn’t improve on your comment.


49 posted on 05/30/2022 8:56:00 AM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce. ☭☭☭)
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To: Robert DeLong

I think it is best not to dispute a fool so therefore I will remain quiet.


50 posted on 05/30/2022 9:09:53 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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51 posted on 05/30/2022 11:56:08 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Robert DeLong

52 posted on 05/30/2022 11:57:22 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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53 posted on 05/30/2022 11:59:50 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: amnestynone
Well, so far I have not seen you refute anything I have said. Is that because you are unable to do so?

You're being lied to, but yet you accept it as the truth. So, who exactly is the fool? It's not me. As time passes by we will see that I was the one who was right, while you were actually the fool you claim I am. Have a blessed life.

54 posted on 05/30/2022 12:00:54 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: marcusmaximus
Vladimir Putin: Pedophilia Is Essentially Satanic

That's something you will never hear from Joe Biden.

Pictures, especially ones taken in public, can be just as misconstrued as those arguing against our involvement in this conflict who are then called all sorts of derogatory names by the Zelenskyy/Ukraine cheerleading squad here on Free Republic.

Most of those pictures just show a man kissing kids of the forehead and cheek. Without context that one of Putin kissing the boy's chest is indeed provocative, but not one proving deviancy. I remember when all American politician's used to kiss children on their cheeks, though I admit not in that location. 😋

So, just to make you happy I say that it's a possibility that Putin may be a pedophile, but it's far from proven. Basically it amounts to rumors, and high powered men are always subjected to rumors of depravity.

But Zelenskyy is a confirmed NWO Globalist, who has actual Nazis fighting for him:

The NWO Globalist Stooge Zelensky & His Epic Betrayal of Ukraine

55 posted on 05/30/2022 12:32:07 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: marcusmaximus

Ew.

He’s creepier than Joe Biden. Biden has not descended into kissing little toddler boys on the lips...yet.

I guess the parents can’t say no Pootin, due to the fact they may end up in prison or worse...


56 posted on 05/30/2022 1:39:57 PM PDT by Vaden (CAUTION: Defending Putin=Defending Hitler=MAGA Destruction)
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To: Robert DeLong

Some of what you say I agree with but most of i tis nonsense. Most of itis not obvious and I regret that I would argue with a fool.


57 posted on 05/30/2022 2:56:06 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone

Point out the nonsense. Are you afraid that you are the fool, and don’t want to reveal that fact? 🙂


58 posted on 05/30/2022 4:30:33 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong
By all accounts I have seen Ukraine is winning. To continue to do so they will need our help which they should have. Russia is obviously returning to its aggressive and predatory ways and should be stopped sooner than later. I consider that to be obvious. Many of the things that you say are foolish are not and even if I agree with them I would say there are different points of view.
59 posted on 05/30/2022 5:46:47 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone
Let me ask you. Your neighbor needs help. he needs money to replace his roof. You can help your neighbor, however, it means not being able to make much needed repairs to your roof. Do you forego your roof repairs to help your neighbor?

Now you may think this is a ridiculous question, however, you are willing to sacrifice our southern border, along with a host of other problems this nation has, to ensure Ukraine maintains it border integrity. That is as foolish as foregoing your roof repairs so that your neighbor can repair his roof. In fact, it borders upon insanity.

Furthermore, you seem to believe that Biden & his administration are really sincere and that they truly care for the Ukrainian people. Yet, Biden does not care about the citizens of this nation and he even labels those who voted for Trump as terrorists. Doubling down, with any parent that cares about their children and fights against these communist school boards, who do not care about our children either, are also labeled as terrorists. Even worse, you seem to believe our press. Have you not seen the lies they have perpetrated for even just these last 6 years?

But back to your statement. What you actually are seeing is propaganda that you have foolishly accepted as the truth. Ukraine was never winning this conflict. They only had the success that they did have is because Putin had decided to take a soft approach in this special operation, as he calls it. They still have power, telephone service, and even internet service. He did so because he has no real issue with Ukrainians, and he was trying to maintain their infrastructure.

In fact, he sees them as part of the Slavs family, but he does have problems with the leadership of Ukraine, because they were, and still are, taking away the rights, of the Ukrainians who speak Russian, to speak their native Russian, or to teach Russian in their schools in the Donbas region. That issue was not an issue until 2013-2014 time frame. The other reason is that we having been throwing billions at them in the form of weapons and cash, along with other NATO nations who have been doing the same.

This is not about Ukraine's sovereignty at all. This conflict was created by our government, under Obama, in order to conduct a proxy war with Russia, at the expense of the Ukrainian people. After all, it's better to put them at risk than it is to put their families at possible risk.

All western nations are bankrupt for all intents & purposes, but even worse they have placed people into positions of power in western nations. These are people who believe wholeheartedly in the One World Government.

No my FRiend, I am not the fool at all, here.

60 posted on 05/30/2022 7:05:33 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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